The thing that really worries me is that this might just be our 2020 moment. If our centre-left governments don’t address the bread-and-butter issues that drive the politics of resentment, these will be just speed bumps to the fascists and the next election could be catastrophic…

Fuck, that’s 700 families impacted, this is huge.

Edit: and 1500 more impacted in the supply chain.

This is where government should step in.

Something something safe space, something something inclusion, something something participation trophy.

Question, were you a student in Quebec?

(Not downvoting you.)

Not particularly compelling? In a minority government context? Oh god, you really have no idea what you’re talking about. Cheerio.

Good. Hopefully it won’t ever come to that. And it’s good that you’re paying attention. But inform yourself before you go all guns blazing.

Tactical voting in Canada is a much much much more granular affair than in the US. And tactical voting does not mean necessarily “vote for the centrist or the fascists win”. Case in point: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchener_Centre_(federal_electoral_district) The Conservatives won because Liberals split the vote and ended up costing the incumbent Green MP the seat. The same Green had beat the Conservatives in the previous election. So stupid US-style tactical voting for the centrist handed a seat to the Right. Do you see why I react the way I do with stupid monkeying of US style two-party politics?

Buddy, your political system is nothing like ours. We don’t have one all-or-nothing election. We have a Westminster system, we have a multiparty democracy, we have minority governments and the capacity for coalitions. Our supreme Court justices retire, our federalism is not broken like yours and we don’t have founding daddy issues that cripple us to blindly worshipping some 200 year old piece of paper.

Keep your rage your side of the border, your frame of reference does not translate to our system. Pipe down.

This is an article about Quebec. Do students in Quebec need this kind of tool?

It’s a bit puzzling to me that we are worrying about replacing a very expensive thing that (some) students own with a very cheap thing. Like, yes of course, give everyone a damn calculator, but really, now you guys feel the sudden urge to advocate for that? If someone can’t afford a 9$ calculator, they also didn’t afford it last week, when phones were not banned. Where was all the concern about students who can’t afford calculators last week? It’s silly.

A calculator is a couple of orders of magnitude cheaper than a phone. Single vs triple digits.

Sure, no problem with that, but they’re not “working class heroes”, which is what I reacted to in the first place.

A liberal fights a monopoly by competition, so that no single capitalist gains more profits over the other capitalists.

A socialist fights a monopoly by socializing it and making it a utility that works to meet the needs of the population, eliminating the profit motive.

Nice imagination you got there. Do you have more things to imagine about what my political positions are, while calling me a fucking traitor?

Some people man.

Yes, he’s a centrist and he’s to the right of Trudeau. These are fiscally conservative centrist policies. He’s at the right wing of the Liberal party. He’s not Trump, he’s not a Conservative, nobody says he is.

But for the love of Tommy Douglas’ ghost, don’t try to sell me any of this as …left wing. Carney is no social-democrat or democratic socialist.

If you think that pointing that out is somehow deriding Carney, that’s a “you” problem. There is nothing wrong with being a centrist, I don’t understand why you need to convince that the man is something he just isn’t.

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“Competition” is not a working class interest. Solidarity is.

The discourse on Lemmy however is a tendency to use “tankie” as some kind of othering identity marker. If I, an NDP and QS supporter, raise my hand and say “excuse me but Carney is a right wing Liberal, and I’m not comfortable with how the Overton Window has shifted to the right in Canada”, there is a clear narrative that will lump me in with the Others, right? Who by virtue of being tankies are therefore traitorous to Canada and therefore, hello, here’s the old red scare trope of “fellow travellers”, “pinkos” and “useful idiots”. Let’s not pretend that’s not the case.

Lowering taxes on capital is not a left wing stance. It just isn’t.

Right wing does not mean unreasonable. It means right wing.

Anything to the left of the Liberals is “tankies” now?