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  • Gonna say it aloud for the unweaned masses in the back.

    The main problematic issue with most “we need an alternative for Yplatform in the Fediverse!” speech is the use of the singular. We are never going to get a good thing going if we push for “everything-app” platforms because they’ll be everything-apps, and the push of power is irresistible. Also, everything apps are much harder to develop for the same base feature set (“share a message” is easy in text, quadratically much harder on video), which is why VC-funded capital can do it.

    We have to accept that what we need is alternatives, plural, to the various things that Discord and other platforms centralize. Because half the point here is we are against centralization. And allowing each project to focus on each problem separately allows them to take advantage of their own strengths, up to and including funding and provisioning (“get storage for a million items” is trivial on text; quadratically much harder on video).

    We need a text messaging platform? XMPP already exists. Let’s go help.

    We need audio chats? Mumble already exists. Let’s go help.

    We need instant notifications? Surely something already exists. Let’s go help.

    We don’t need “a walled garden but on the Fediverse”.



  • I have seen lots of people. Mostly not here, but that’s because we here know better (I’d hope). Runs along with usual complaints such that they can’t move from a platform with 9trillion captive users to a new budding platform, conveniently forgetting that when they began Shitter and stuff also had like 0 users yet people did move.




  • Oooh!

    If it wasn’t closed-source I’d actually recommend Teamspeak for that use case. Elsewise, of the ones I’ve known personally the stablest would be Mumble, but the problem is the clients.

    It’s also important to recall that if we want to look for alternatives we have to be very willing to look for stuff that’s not Discord 1:1 because otherwise what would be the point. Plus, it’s unfair of us to ask full equivalence from hobbyist developers to match what a corporation that is selling our data to ensure cash flow can do.