If you aren’t sure, install with secure boot off. If you like adventure, install with secure boot on and see if secure boot causes problem or not. If yes, then install with secure boot off

Ohh really? I don’t trust people like you

…you mean western countries where nvidia gpu’s are the most common?

If we’re including beginners in developing countries this is even less common of an issue, when I was in india, not a single person I helped with tech had a graphics card, why would they have a 470xx series driver gpu and not an integrated system? It’s not even the cheapest choice. I recently built a PC in india, coincidentally, and we ended up going with an integrated system for a gaming PC.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

i mean, look at these stats, it’s such a minority it’s hardly worth mention. You’ll probably say “these are just the steam stats, most of them aren’t on steam anyway!” But if they’re not using steam/proton… they almost definitely aren’t using xwayland anyway so the issues don’t apply to them in the first place.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5204/~/list-of-kepler-series-geforce-desktop-gpus

compare that to the list on the hardware survey and you’ll see how unbelievably rare this problem actually is. They don’t even make the list, it’s less than a 1% issue.

Why did you edit your comment?

It’s a fact

Fact for you again

Fact for you

For you again

If we’re including beginners in developing countries this is even less common of an issue

For you

the vast majority of beginners do not have 10+ year old hardware.

In western countries

Being expected to use slightly different software when you’re using a 10+ year old hardware setup is not weird

Yes, it isn’t weird. The problem is you want people to leave Xorg meanwhile NVK hasn’t finished yet

this one niche case

Linux is popular because it is old hardware friendly

The nvidia thing is also a problem for x.org

No, all NVIDIA is works well on Xorg

Vnc works perfectly

Oh, it is work. Good then

I think we’re talking 10 or more years old with the nvidia thing…

Yup

Old NVIDIA series (not wayland problem but very new users will blame wayland because old NVIDIA series are work on Xorg), VNC

It’s well out of the testing phase

Testing phase, not stable phase (yet).

Wayland is plenty tested these days

If it’s still being tested, then it isn’t for very new users

x11 has the following problems every time:

And Wayland isn’t very well tested yet. We should only give a very well tested display server to very new users. They must not get a bad impression

won’t support HDR,

Source?

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The insidious nature of Steam is the fact that they’re basically a PC gaming business monopoly,

Steam is a market leader, not a monopoly. Steam looks like a monopoly because it is the natural effect of being a market leader.

The fact that 80%+ of PC game sales are through Steam doesn’t seem to faze or disturb them, when it most definitely should

Reasonable disturbance but I personally will only categorize this as a concern.

The consequence of always choosing the middle ground is that the middle ground will be progressively pulled toward the right.

You’re right. Ronald Reagan is prove for this. Ronald Reagan pulled what FDR did