Well, if you ignore the bad things that someone does, then I can see how this can be confusing. I participate in US news discussions all the time, that’s how I know that Biden is a terrible person, who did terrible things.

If you want to be less confused, I’d recommend that you do the same.

Didn’t fuck up the global economy with dumbass trade wars and dumbass regular wars.

Yes he did.

Didn’t attempt to control the media

Yes he did.

Didn’t try to sell off national park land to oil companies and logging companies.

Yes he did.

Was arguably doing the best he could to get the economy back on track and inflation under control, instead of doing the exact opposite.

I didn’t see that happen at all.

Didn’t accept extravagant ‘totally not a bribe’ gifts from semi-hostile foreign nations.

Yes he did.

The rest I agree with.

But you’ve got to admit that Trump is demonstrably, materially worse in a lot of ways.

I do agree that Biden was marginally better. But that’s not the claim that was made. The claim was that Biden was “still infinity better”.

Can you at least try to answer my question?

You laid out a set of criteria: “…wage theft, human suffering, environmental destruction and empowerment of the oligarchies”

All of the examples I gave meet that criteria. Why is AI different?

Come on, be honest.

Not really, no. Like I said, they were very similar.

And I don’t understand how you can see them do the above listed things, and claim that there is an “enormous gulf between the two primary options”. Yes, there are minor differences, but to say there is an “enormous gulf”, serously downplays how evil and monsterous Biden was.

Liberals refusing to see how evil and monsterous their politicians are, is one of the reasons that other monsters like Trump keep getting elected.

Different doesn’t mean Biden was good, just that he was so much better than the alternative.

“so much better” is where we disagree. The dude was a monster.

Did his administration blow up ships in international waters with no approval?

Not that I know of. But he sure did that to innocent people on land.

Deport citizens arrested by ICE to third-world countries with no trial and refuse to bring them back?

Yes

Dismantle USAID, killing multiple thousands of people?

Nope, but he forced people back to dangerous offices, killing thousands. He backed a genocide, killing multiple thousands. Bombed the hell out of who-knows-how many people. I don’t really care what tool someone used to kill others, I care that they killed others.

Remove protections from federal land and allow nature to be destroyed? Arrest citizens for using privacy features on their phones? Violate the first-amendment rights of national television broadcasters?

Yes

Let goons run around with full illegal access to every government database?

Yes

Deny healthcare to women based on their marital status?

No, but he sat back and did nothing when that happened, and had the full power to help them.

Beat and jail people protesting ICE raids?

Yes

Lie, cheat, scam, rape, steal, corrupt, and otherwise destroy anything they get their hands on?

Yes

I could go on, but it’s clear that you are ignoring my point: We were talking about “meaningfully different results”. Just because Biden didn’t do the exact same things as Trump doens’t mean that Biden gave us “meaningfully different results”.

…still infinity better…

…a difference be it as small as it may be…

I was simply pointing out that one of these is very different than the other. I never said that I didn’t see a difference between the two.

I also find it pretty telling that someone showing support for a genocide-supporting, rapist and child-killer is calling me a boot-licker.

Most of it worked fine. I only ran into trouble once I started trying to run it on Raspberry Pi’s (which they have since started supporting).

But my laptops and desktop-servers didn’t have any driver issues that I remember.

I’m talking about both of them. They both did all of those things.

Then why are you mad at AI? Those fit all of the same requrirements that you listed above. Why do you think one is bad, but not the other?

I think you are starting off with an incorrect premise: In the US, the role of the cops is not to keep people, or society safe. It often also has very little to due with “the law”.

The role is to keep the rich and powerful, rich and powerful. They are meant to oppress people, and keep the slave-machine running. Cops shooting people, stealing from them, escalating situations, and not knowing the law is the intended situation.

In that sense, the cops are doing their job to great effect, and don’t need any more training.

• bombed kids
• raped women
• screwed over his voters
• backed a genocide
• sent people to torture prisons
• mass immigration
• environmental destruction
• taking money from the workers to give to his rich friends

still infinity better

wut?

I did for a few years. It was awesome. So simple, and clean, and reliable

So are you mad at power-tools? The internet? Cars? Because they are “building on the base of wage theft, human suffering, environmental destruction and empowerment of the oligarchies.”

Why are you mad at one set of tools, but not the other sets of tools?

“permanant”

Brought to you by the same companies that “accidentally” re-add you to their spam lists.

No, not really. There are models based on freely given training data. There are models used without wasting large amounts of electricity. There are models that aren’t used to empower the oligarchs.

It sounds like you are mad at our economic and societal structures, but taking your anger out on the tools.

Intentionally hard games. I get that people like a challenge, but play games to relax.

Thanks, that’s helpful. Feel free to PM me that link. And feel free to share more! I love trying new things, so I’m totally down to try a bunch of different solutions.

It’s been quite a journey for me, and it’s been kind of frustrating that there’s no go-to solution, because everyone has to find what that works for them. But I’ve been feeling a lot better since I started paying more attention, and I hope the same for you!

…if the democrats actually wanted to win…

Many similar paths to “winning” for the Dems have been obvious for a long time. But winning isn’t their goal. Their goal is go keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful, while taking a cut for themselves.

Which high-sodium electrolyte mixes and salt-pills do you use? I’ve got similar health issues, and have been looking for good drinks, but a lot of them have high-ish potassium rates, which I’m trying to avoid.

(feel free to PM me if you don’t want to share too much publicly)