According to Ring’s policy, they state that they ask for user’s permission to get the footage. However, as the article mentions (but fails to provide the source actually) the Ring cameras have provided footage to law enforcement without a warrant or user’s consent 11 times in 2022. Therefore while on paper, they are supposed to ask the user, there were already times when this was completely ignored, and could mean that the same could happen in the future.

The Intercept article about it (source that this article failed to include):

https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/amazon-ring-camera-footage-police-ed-markey/

‘Although Ring publicizes its policy of handing over camera footage only if the owner agrees — or if judge signs a search warrant — the company says it also reserves the right to supply police with footage in “emergencies,” defined broadly as “cases involving imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to any person.” Markey had also asked Amazon to clarify what exactly constitutes such an “emergency situation,” and how many times audiovisual surveillance data has been provided under such circumstances. Amazon declined to elaborate on how it defines these emergencies beyond “imminent danger of death or serious physical injury,” stating only that “Ring makes a good-faith determination whether the request meets the well-known standard.” Huseman [Amazon’s vice president of public policy] noted that it has complied with 11 emergency requests this year alone but did not provide details as to what the cases or Ring’s “good-faith determination” entailed.’

Also there is a NY Times article about it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/28/business/amazon-ring-doorbell-camera-police.html

“In the letter, Amazon’s vice president of public policy, Brian Huseman, also said that Amazon had shared Ring footage with law enforcement 11 times in 2022 using a process that does not require the user’s consent.”

Ring doorbell cameras announced a partnership with Flock, which in turn has already been sharing information with ICE.

“Law enforcement agencies using Flock software can now issue Ring footage requests specifying location, timeframe, and case details, a move first reported by TechCrunch.”

https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/ring-cameras-join-flock-and-amazon

Ring doorbell cameras announced a partnership with Flock, which in turn has already been sharing information with ICE.

“Law enforcement agencies using Flock software can now issue Ring footage requests specifying location, timeframe, and case details, a move first reported by TechCrunch.”

https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/ring-cameras-join-flock-and-amazon

It does sound convincing. From Angle 6 (on crimesofice.org) you can also see the officer who would later murder the victim flinch after the first shot, which would be weird if he was the one who fired it. However, I am still unsure, the videos don’t show that much detail to see whether the ICE agent in the gray jacket fired first or not :(

Yes, I just wished the narrator emphasized it more. In my very subjective opinion, I think it is a very important detail that the ICE agent shoots the victim even though he knows that he is disarmed. Without a gun, even IF the victim “violently resisted” as DHS said, the agents still wouldn’t be in danger. I made a post about it here

https://lemmy.4d2.org/post/2615335

Looks like the mp4 file there is corrupted, at least now. Even when I visit the video source, https://files.catbox.moe/083svh.mp4, it also doesn’t work. Can you upload again please

You are right that in the first picture alone, you cannot clearly see what is on the waist that the guy in the gray jacket tries to grab/hold. However the screenshots are meant to show moments from the video, and in the video it is more clear that the gray jacket guy tries to take out the gun, which is also shown by him being the one who walks away with the victim’s gun at the end (can be seen from other angles)

Still, it is always good to have objective proof. Hopefully these people will get prosecuted one day, and when that day comes, we will be ready with all the necessary evidence.

Can you share it please? From the angles I have, it seems like as the first shot is fired, the gun that the agent in the gray jacket holds (that was taken from the victim) isn’t the one firing

Here it is as the first shot was fired

Yup :(

And as other people pointed out, even if the gun wasn’t taken by ICE agents, still, more than 6 people were holding onto his every limb. His hands were far away from the holster. There is absolutely no objective reason for even one of these agents to feel in danger.

The agent that shot him clearly saw that the gun was already taken away and the victim didn’t have it. I will post the proof shortly

Got it, thank you. I will look into that, it will definitely make the videos more accessible, since not everyone might want to go on another website while just scrolling.

Yup, I was already thinking about how to implement some sort of folderization for major events, however, I didn’t think of side-ways scrolling, but it does sound like a good idea. Thank you for the suggestion! I have my to-do list for the project posted in the community crimes_of_ice (https://lemmy.4d2.org/post/2593953).

Next thing I will do after releasing the first archive to the torrent will most probably be folderization. It will allow me not only to group the angles, but also the protests after incidents, etc. to show the bigger picture of an incident

Just did, sorry for the late response

Thank you!

For embedding, what do you exactly mean? Do you mean embedding it in a post instead of leaving a link to the website? If so, can you please tell me how to do it. I am a relatively new user on lemmy, and I only see the “upload image” button for the body

or is it possible to actually do <video src=…> stuff>?

Probably yes, but hopefully not

Thank you for the video! We had it but with very bad resolution, will change it now to yours

It appears that I posted to the wrong anarchy community, I assume people come here to lighten up their mood, not see murders, so sorry for my mistake here

It seems that the post is getting attention, so I won’t delete it, but I’ll make sure to pay better attention next time, sorry :)

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A good person already cross-posted this post to that sub :)