It’s not very wild when you realize you’re talking to addicts. The whole world is addicted.

I don’t find very much interesting about this conversation anymore. If it can even be called that. American politics is like scripted television drama. It’s quite fitting. Except it’s so predictable. It’s the same script on loop.

I think the fun hasn’t even begun. The “market” or whatever. The collective mind hasn’t yet realized or the scale hasn’t quite tipped yet on how bad this all is. I think maybe too many people are silently making their financial move so as to not be the one to that sets it all off. Or they’re trying to tread carefully before the house of cards falls.

Like when Lehman went under in 2008. All those shit derivatives were plugging along. Some people knew it was rotten. The system kept going until suddenly didn’t anymore. Then all the red lights and alarm bells went off.

Even with current market downturn. I think it’s yet to go off the cliff. They keep bending the system and it’s bowing but it hasn’t really broken yet. When it does I think a greater than 50% drop in the SP500 is possible.

That’s not to say it’s going to all come crashing down in like a day or a week or even a month. I think the paradigm of the past 15 years is over. The one where’ there’s a relatively brief drop and then everyone buys “cheap stock” and then everything goes 20% higher.

I think we’re in for a long period of decline. Where people cannot simply dump money into investments and see gains every year. We could be in for a long haul where people put money into an SP500 fund and it loses every year. Maybe a 0%-1% gain on a good year due to sideways movement.

It’s kind of weird people are taking that literally.

Also just a weird is how the internet predominantly lays the blame solely on parents. And people love to absolve everyone else especially teachers of any childhood development responsibilities. LIke the saying goes, ‘it takes a village’. Teachers are as much parents as anyone else in the village. The aunts/uncles, neighbors, corner store clerk, mailman, police officer. When kids act up, the adults have to correct it.

Yet the internet generally just glares at the parents. Then again it stands to reason parents or broadly speaking people who actively engage in parenting roles aren’t chronically online. They’re actually raising children.

People wonder why things are the way they are. Maybe it’s because the village has absconded.

If I had kids I should damn well hope they get a beating at school when they step out of line. Figuratively of course. Because. The internet seems to have lost all reading comprehension. Maybe they weren’t beat enough at school either… Figuratively I mean.

It’s systematic censorship of anyone that isn’t far right. I’ve had dozens if not hundreds of accounts silenced by attrition.

It used to be a thing on reddit to use alt accounts. So it was normal to have many accounts for anything and everything. Starting around 2016 when all this stupid shit start happening is when my accounts started dropped like flies.

Just this week another one was site wide banned because I remark on a post about Trumps physical report saying he could die and Republicans would claim he’s in perfect health. Banned for inciting violence.

What the right has been doing is systematically biasing the moderation on social platforms. So that anyone that mentions so much as a word relating to violence (such as war or someones personal health status) can plausibly be linked to a negative connoation. Thereby they can argue it break some rule.

its executive director of public safety, Chris Clem, who is a former US Customs and Border Protection agent who testified before Congress about border security last year and regularly appears on Fox News

So a bunch of chuds managed to take their weekend pedo hunting and turn it into a shitty startup.

The guns were pointed at gays, minorities, liberals, and communists in order to free themselves from the tyranny of other people daring to exist in their presence.

The screenshot of files looks like an troll. I can’t believe nobody is pointing this out.

I mean really. Who even names folders like that.

Block is useless on lemmy. They can still cause a nuisance. Just becuase you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there…

I saved so much money due to csg threads.

Privatization probably.

People know what 4chan is. There’s no illusions about it. reddit and its derivatives are were the real trolling goes down.

I think it’s not new. “homegrown terrorist” -> “homegrowns”.

I’m speculating they’re going to use that angle. Using precedents set by The War on Terrorism ™ to justify the next steps. The 50501 movement needs to be preparing organized legal supports for anyone who gets disappeared. I bet this is who they are going after next. Summer is coming. The protests are ramping up. What if it’s as soon as the April 19th event.

They aren’t even beginning a comeback until their Overton Window shifts closer to reality. Otherwise nobody isn’t going to recognize them as anything but descending uncontrollably into backwater hermit state as every nation scrambles to cut ties.

At most 30% of the voting age population understood the assignment trying to prevent all this. That’s certainly an indictment. The majority of the population has departed from reality. Perhaps many were never with it on account of being born too deep into the mythology of America.

The internet was supposed to expand peoples minds offering an antidote to such things as this. Instead it dug them deeper. It’s crazy. Sometimes I wonder what if all this is in no small part due simply to a consequence of reactionaries getting online and seeing too much of the world. Seeing 7 billion kinds of diversity of humanity around the world beaming through their smartphone caused their brains to short circuit. Deciding that being a paranoid hermit state is better than being a nation of the world.

Notice the “free market” vanishes when it’s a thing they don’t like. Suddenly we need strong authority to ensure it’s “fair”.

How do you know it will? Stagnation is a thing in the US stock market as much as ‘line go up’ is a thing.

If anything millennials have had it better than anyone else. If your brain hasn’t hemorrhaged from reading that sentence then consider that what you are saying is only being said because millennials have seen the one of most incredible bull runs ever.

If you’re 35 years old that means you started your big boy career job about 15 years ago. In other words your investment portfolio if you were one of the individuals smart enough to begin diligently investing from the start. Look at the SP500 15 years ago. It was the bottom of the recession. The SP500 has gone in a straight line up from about 700 to 6000. So only a modest what like 800% gain. Of course it’s easy to say ‘cheap stock’ every time a big drop happens.

Now look at the 15 year period after the Dotcom bust. Now try the 1970s through the better part of the 1980s. Long periods of stagnation. Sideways moving stock market.

People need to be ready to stomach effectively zero gains until age 50 as much as you can tell them the SP500 could hit 12000 in the same period. There’s no guarantees unless your frame of reference is only the past 15 years. Then of course it is easy to say line always go up.

You’re not crazy. We’ve been witnessing a collective psychological phenomena as you’ve described. I’m sure psychology field has enough papers to write for more than a lifetime. People a century from now will be dissecting this period of history.

Yeah you’ll never know for sure. Actual tankies are what like a small subset of the small percent of progressives. Fractions of a fraction. Statistically they are non-existent. There is an outsized presense online. So one could reason that most of them you encounter are acting in bad faith. It’s been a very effective weapon on information warfare.

My philosophy is to abide by the oldest rule of the internet. Don’t feed the trolls.

That’s cause “tankie” is right wing propaganda for exactly that reason. It blunts progressive discourse dead in its tracks.

Infinite scroll is suited for current events putting negative pressures against content creation. Content creation became an economy. Commoditization of content sucked the life out of it all.