It feels pretty good, as well as looks pretty good. YaST and the YaST installer have been basically in maintenance mode for a long time, without any active development for a number of years now, and it’s certainly time to move on.

Well, there’s already a discussion on the mailing lists, and while I can’t speak for the project, (nor am I an attorney, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night), the “Main” openSUSE Project logo is a registered trademark of SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, so it’s highly unlikely that it’s going to change.

Well, I can say, with all certainty, that while I appreciate the submissions, and the community making themselves heard, that isn’t the new Kalpa logo.

Yes, Printer setup on openSUSE is still a clusterfuck, for reasons. You’re best off in openSUSE KDE to just point your webbrowser at http://localhost:631 and log directly into CUPS and setup your printers that way.

If you want all your web video and whatnot to work, you need to install the codecs from Packman, in their entirety, or use a flatpak’d web browser. openSUSE won’t ship patent encumbered codecs from the official repositories.

Unless you really know what you’re doing, with Leap, or Tumbleweed, stick with the OSS and non-OSS repos provided. They are the ones that have been through the openQA process, and are officially “supported”. If you enable a bunch of home: devel: or other repositories, just assume that they’re unstable, and use at your own risk. If you’re looking at a repository on OBS, and don’t see openSUSE_Tumbleweed as one of the build targets, then forcing the install with a Leap or SLE package, may, or may not break things.

Regarding zypper ref and autorefresh, I can’t recall exactly, but there is the chance that just running zypper dup and hoping that it refreshes everything on it’s own, with non-standard repositories may fail, which can lead to some weird edgecases.

Just in general, you’re going to want to run zypper ref && zypper dup (not the other way round) As far as YaST being targetted more at Leap than Tumbleweed, you’re exactly right. And there’s a reason that we don’t ship it with newer flavours of the distribution.

Well none of that sounds like sketchy behavior on the part of the Management Company.

Not at all.

Correct, SUSE, the corporation is no longer providing a traditional linux distribution, after the SLE-15 EOL.

openSUSE, which is a community project, and not controlled by SUSE, is currently debating as to whether we have the contributors interested in doing so, and in sufficient numbers, to continue to provide a traditional point release distribution.

Tumbleweed (the rolling release) is not going anywhere. The community has not yet decided if the interest and manpower is there to use the ALP sources provided by SUSE to create A) A traditional linux distribution, akin to what Leap currently is, B) a “Slowroll” version of Tumbleweed, that has a slower release cycle, or C) Nothing at all, because there isn’t the community there to support the development of it.

SUSE != openSUSE

The change shown in the upstream bug has been made in the openSUSE Tumbleweed Packages, months ago. Are you using Leap, or Tumbleweed?

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I actually read the whole post. Since you’re on Tumbleweed, this is indeed a bug, please file one at bugzilla.opensuse.org

I don’t care about beeper one way or another, but that bloody image with the post, it needs to die in a fire.

I will never claim they are authentic, or even great, but I will destroy the 2 for a buck tacos.

Packman is generally stable, and the only way to get the patent encumbered codecs for full AudioVideo decoding for Leap or Tumbleweed.

That’s XMMP different thing =P

It’s still around. I’m using it right now, in fact. Makes for a pretty damn good phone service as well, in conjunction with JMP

So they’ve got one of the LLM bots answering posts?

Uh. You just described Aeon and Kalpa.

Huh. I knew AMD currently had an edge in Gaming, but I didn’t realise it was that high.

I switched to AMD on linux for non-gaming related reasons, but what is it that Intel is doing that’s killing their market share? I mean, I know their CPU’s don’t suck, but are they just that bad?

Yeah, Neil Gaiman. It’s supposedly a sequel, I guess, to AG, but there’s not really much of a connection I’m aware of.

And yeah, Sandman was great.

Uh. The relationship between CentOS Stream and RHEL is a bit murkier to me. I’d be lying to you if I said I fully understood how that code flow works.

For openSUSE the flow is “openSUSE Tumbleweed” -> “SUSE Linux Enterprise” -> “openSUSE Leap”

Everytime SUSE creates a new version/service pack of SLE (SLE 15 SP4, to use an example) the sources for that version are provided to openSUSE, and a new version of Leap is released (openSUSE Leap 15.4)

I don’t actually work on Leap much, nor am I a SUSE Employee, so there are probably some minutae in that process that I’m missing, but that’s the basic workflow.

Just got done re-reading Anansi Boys, and started a re-read of American Gods last night. (Yes, I know, I’m reading them out of order, shush.)

That’s how you read the GPL, you might be right.

When I read the GPL, and I have read it a number of times over the years, while I might find what RedHat has chosen to do to be distasteful, I don’t find it in violation of the GPL. It’s entirely possible that I’m wrong.

But I’m not a legal expert by any stretch of the imagination, are you?

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