@nokturne213 @Deemo @apple_enthusiast there is room to criticize Apple, particularly under Cook, but their stuff just works mostly the way it should.

@aral@mastodon.ar.al deleted the app and Thunderbird

@timewarp it’s probably because it’s so well integrated with their hardware, which is superior, that it works so well. My problem is the walled garden aspect their apps. If you don’t use standardized formats e.g. odf, it’s really useless for widespread adoption.

@Celestus @TORFdot0 @apple_enthusiast this is where the rubber meets the pavement so-to-speak. The insane, corrupt, bigoted, unconstitutional, fascism of the Trump regime is in the news but doesn’t confront most people directly just yet. Most haven’t really seen the effects of the CDC, NIH, or even gestapo tactics of ICE personally. But Apple Maps, from a company that, until the last decade or so, has epitomized anti-establishment, now kowtowing to the epitome of American fascism brings it home.

@timewarp @misk a walled garden it is but frankly, Apple equipment just works. I’ve never had trouble with my Apple devices like I did with my PCs.

@ClassifiedPancake @Sunshine @apple_enthusiast they really, really need to ditch Cook and get back to their roots.

@ClassifiedPancake @Sunshine @apple_enthusiast I’ve tried to report it and haven’t found a way through their category questions to say something, particularly a natural geographical feature, is mislabeled, only that some location is missing from the maps.

@Sunshine @astrsk too true.

@remotelove @cantankerous_cashew @apple_enthusiast they need to correct the Apple Maps problem though. Some idiot troll hacked it and renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

@magnus919 @sundrei @apple_enthusiast to be fair, almost no major US company/CEO/CFO/President hasn’t kissed the ring to one degree or another. It’s the cost of doing business under American capitalism with someone as corrupt and manipulatable as Trump. In fact it’s likely a matter of survival, not just profitability with a someone as vindictive as Trump is with almost no government checks on his power.

@chgowiz I suppose the interesting aspect of these PDAs by corporatists is the blatant fealty and corruption put on public display. At least with the establishment Democrats, it was kept behind closed doors but now it’s like they are truly afraid Trump and Elon will literally go after them using law enforcement and the courts, the military, and Congress like mob enforcers if they don’t very publicly kneel before him.

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@circuitfarmer @cantankerous_cashew @apple_enthusiast or Walmart or Amazon or… it’s inescapable

@paraphrand totally agree. I don’t understand the thinking behind “walled garden” software.

@paraphrand @clf @apple_enthusiast my only real problem with iOS/macOS is that iWork isn’t ODF compatible which makes it useless for me as I collaborate.

@M33 @henfredemars @apple_enthusiast I’d rather have iWork save in ODF.

@vinnymac @FundMECFSResearch @apple_enthusiast agreed mostly… #apple UI ( #iOS #macOS) is easy, their hardware just works, their multi-device compatibility is super convenient, and their in-house productivity suite (iWork) would be great but for the fact that when you’re collaborating with other people and businesses, especially in Europe, since it doesn’t save or import/export #ODF #opendocumentformat, you just can’t use it.

@fartsparkles I use LiO. Have for years. Memory is t really the issue. It’s useless programs because of the idiocy of extreme walls garden ideology.

@fartsparkles @Zorsith @apple_enthusiast the name change is appropriate for both descriptive and international standards purposes, even if not compliant with nostalgia. Now if they’ed just make iWork ODF compatible for the same reasons so I could use it for actual work instead of it just taking up space on my devices.

@reddig33 tried export tests and too much is “lost in translation”, not as much lost exporting to docx but still not a complete translation. Using LibreOffice and Collabora with ODF and collaborating with MSO users will have to do as there are no problems there. iWork sadly isn’t all that useful as long as it remains closed.