I would argue that the issue with brushing technique is not relevant to the effectiveness study. Normal people are going to vary in technique. Controlling too strictly for technique does not realistically tell us which is more or less effective in practice. Likewise, we can’t assume the toothpaste users where on average less effective or more effective than the toothpaste nonusers. Like I said, studies keep reinforcing this conclusion. At this point it’s more than reasonable to assume the conclusion that toothpaste doesn’t help with actual brushing is a pretty secure position.

thats a lot of words that im sure maybe someone will read

https://www.amazon.com/Conservative-Pounded-Realization-Actually-Ideology-ebook/dp/B0C6V7WX92

now apologize to mr tingle for doubting him

tricking the pentagon into targetting pro-us individuals by posting on twitter as a bit

You’re getting the death sentence in China if you’re caught for this. No doubt about it.

Please produce the law in China in regards to this showing you will be killed or some examples of it happening. Don’t just do the liberal thing where you assume “China authoritarian and kills everybody” thing. Let’s be better than that on a leftist website, jfc.

This article talks about a review of studies about flossing but the link is no longer valid: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/health/flossing-teeth-cavities.html?_r=0

As far as I know not a single official dental association in Europe recommends flossing. The UK used to. They stopped. But for flossing the information about it not actually be very effective (or not at all) is all over the internet. Between flossing and toothpaste the flossing stuff is the most dubious. It’s only useful if you have something stuck and need an extra bit of help dislodging it. Or if you just enjoy the feeling? Some people are strange like that.

Here is a study on dry-brushing vs wet-brushing. They are just as effective as each other. (57% vs 58%) So adding some wetness (water) doesn’t do anything. I mention this one as a sort of control: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/idh.12358

Here is a good one that looks at multiple studies from Journal of Clinical Periodontalogy. Main findings - “On average, 49.2% of plaque was removed when brushing was performed with a dentifrice, and 50.3% of plaque was removed when toothbrushing was performed without a dentifrice.” So, dentrifice or “toothpaste”, was actually slightly less effective (though not statistically significantly so) than brushing with it: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27513809/

I can find some more studies if you like. The conventional wisdom and scientifically supported wisdom is that plaque is removed by the mechanical process of brushing. Toothpaste provides fluoride and can be especially beneficial in environments where fluoride is lacking from natural sources. To be clear, there are indigenous people around the world who do not use toothpaste but have a good fluoride content naturally in their water. Such communities who practice regular mechanical teeth cleaning tend to have good dental outcomes.

If you live in the USA or another country that fluoridates your water you are most likely fine (I’m not a dentist so I can’t actually give you any advice). If you also supplement it with something like mouthwash, fluoride powder, toothpaste or anything else fluoridated you are definitely fine. You really do not need to obsess over it at all.

What I will say is a big strike against toothpaste is much of it has all kind of nasty additives. Soaps. Microplastics. All kinds of shit.

As far as control for bad breath brushing and mouthwash do all the work. You don’t need toothpaste at all. If you are concerned about bad breath carry around one of those tiny travel toothbrushes and brush after every meal. You can do it without toothpaste! Super easy to pop into a bathroom and just have a quick brush. That pretty much controls bad breath entirely. In over a decade of not using toothpaste I’ve never had issues with bad breath nor has my wife ever had an issue with my breath. Brush the old food out yo teefs and you good.

i use mouthwash because bacteria and food particles is what causes bad breath, so after brushing i do the rinse.

also use a waterpic maybe once or twice a month if i have food stuck in my teeth, like popcorn but otherwise dont fuck with it. occassionally i can be good to clean out tonsil stones

Obviously that contact is much more consistent with two minutes of brushing compared to the seconds it takes water to pass through your mouth when you drink.

you did say exactly this its in the words that you wrote right above mine

you are not very subtly claiming that i dont drink much water during the day in order to get sufficient contact of flouride to my teeth. you know that. i can return microaggression with microaggression with the best of em

this site isnt ready for oral hygiene trutherism

but unironically im serious. not a fan of toothpaste

no im serious not only is toothpaste uneccesary to good oral hygiene but numerous peer reviewed published studies show that not only does it not help you clean your teeth better but brushing without it often leads to better results

another fun one: there is no good science behind flossing. the usa is one of the only countries that still pushes it. some countries that used to push it have stopped because the studies just dont show any significant benefit

Good. 7% of imports. A meaningless number without any context whatsoever. How does that 7% relate to their economy? What is that 7% in raw numbers compared to their total economic activity, ie their GDP? 7% on it’s own is absolutely meaningless as a number to tell people. It has no context by which we can evaluate anything of use other than the self referential value it directly represents. It could be super meaningful to their economic situation or absolutely meaningless and inconsequential. With only a 7% number we literally can’t know anything in regards to this. It becomes a form of abstraction to the point of misinformation which is why the west pushes numbers like this.

Decolonize your mind, jfc.

the insulting assumption that i take one sip of water per day jfc the internet is amazing when people respond to you they dont even stop and think for like even a moment

im in my 40s with all my teeth even wisdom and no cavities and drink almost exclusively tap water daily so i think ill continue on this course comrade but you rub that chalky shit all over your gums if you like dont let me talk you out of it

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floridaman here

now im actually going to have to start using toothpaste again just to get my flouride

and i dont even mean this as a bit you dont need toothpaste it doesnt help with bad breath or cleaning your teeth its only useful for the flouride if you dont get it naturally

as soon as the israelis get audacity running on their computers theyll be releasing an album of nonpedophilia covers of rkelly songs

its not continuous. you stop and browse and so on

shrinking the countrys workforce while simultaneously destroying the economy through trade

return to the mediterranean tradition of men and women getting together to make a family where she is the head of household and controls the money and major decisions and the men fuck each other on the side and sometimes the women do be having some lesbian shit going on too

literally and uniforms from eglin

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