The anger toward AI is a class-conscious reaction to its use under capitalism: it’s a tool for deskilling work, centralizing wealth, automating surveillance, and devouring energy and water while the planet burns. The scraping of creative works for private profit is a new enclosure of the commons, and the flood of disinformation and slop serves imperialist interests, not working people. The science isn’t the enemy—the capitalist relations that shape its deployment are. A socialist society could put such forces to collective use, but until then, skepticism is a measured response to a technology wielded as a weapon of class power.

I believe the amount you get from placing them vertical is negligible.

I just heard it on “Michael Parenti - The JFK Assassination: The Gangster Nature of the State”

I’m posting on a forum, not a wiki, I’m not going to put more than a few minutes of work on a post. Fuck off and go bother someone else.

I think it’s an inevitability. Stop telling people what they can or cannot do.

I don’t have a crystal ball, as you said I’m speculating and you somehow expect me to provide proof on something that is yet to pass.

You are doing the same? Answering with no evidence.

But you are missing out that AIs not just LLMs are being trained based on a reward mechanism during training they are going to have some objectives or another. If we don’t control AI we have to compete with superior intelligence and if we control it it’s going to be trying to be maximizing the reward mechanism it’s been trained for that was chosen by capital.

I don’t believe that. The AI bubble can collapse and there’s still going to be progress. This is a technology being worked on worldwide not in a single country. And exponential improvement means it’s going to arrive faster than most people predict right now. If we as a society aren’t doing anything to stop people from being exploited right now, after we reach superintelligence all humanity is going to be repressed as capitalism cannibalizes itself replacing workers with machines. Basically ending class struggle by getting rid of the working class altogether.

environmental, economic

Yeah, I’ve read Empire of AI, the conditions of the Kenyan data curators is worth mentioning. Here is an analysis in case you haven’t read it.

We’re on a double-exponential curve in both software and hardware improvement. If you don’t think a better algorithm than LLMs will emerge sooner rather than later, given all the money being poured into this space, I don’t know what to tell you.

I wouldn’t go that far—I agree with most of their takes, but if their actions aren’t congruent, it’s all just empty words. A community that preaches anti-authoritarianism but bans people for petty reasons is just a joke.

I was told to post those self promos here, nobody suggested any other sites.

https://hexbear.net/comment/7216046

Oh right it was private. I changed it.

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