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  • Copper has chemical properties such that you can dissolve it, and then electrolyise it back out of solution ridiculously pure. More reactive metals stay in the solution, less reactive metals like gold, silver, cadmium and platinum form a nice little lump of sludge beneath your anode that’s absolutely worth collecting.

    It’s valued per weight, like anything else. Wire will cost around as much as the copper inside does, plus a little for the cost of extruding and coating it.

    TL;DR no, in the 21st century pure copper is just pure copper. If you make bronze then sure, there’s many different kinds.




  • Yeah, but you can cast bronze fairly easily, while casting iron is more of an AD technology. Early modern, even, if you’re European. Traditionally you don’t even let it melt while smelting.

    Blacksmithing with wrought iron is way harder than working with something like bronze. There’s slag in it either just from oxidising or from the solid smelting (bloomery) process, and so it has a kind of grain that builds up over time from it. If you don’t account for it your sword or plough will be trash.

    It also rusts, is softer than bronze (even as a typical steel) and not necessarily stronger. The only real advantage is that it’s common and doesn’t require a trade network for rare elements, which is why it didn’t fully catch on in the Near Eastern world until after the bronze age collapse.


  • Good reply, but one nitpick:

    It’s also reasonably safe and easy to extract in a moderately pure form with modern techniques unlike other super abundant elements like silicon.

    Silicon smelting is arguably easier. If you have excess quartzite in your furnace it won’t form silicon carbide, while steelmaking involves being really careful to not get too much or too little carbon in the melt. Silicon becomes expensive for electronics because the industry wants 99.9999% purity absolute minimum. What comes out of the arc furnace isn’t read except for use in other metallurgy.

    I’d also like to point out other elements can do the same basic all-around-skookum-alloy job as iron, like nickel or titanium. It’s just that none of them are everywhere.