

it just sucks to have to weigh whether any given post is their anti-social behavior or genuine. at least right wing trolls get bored and leave us the fuck alone after a bit.
Hexbear.net poster who wanted in on the action
it just sucks to have to weigh whether any given post is their anti-social behavior or genuine. at least right wing trolls get bored and leave us the fuck alone after a bit.
yeah I think the “just make a new account ethos” mostly works except that rather than a community of mostly faceless medium trust level users you also get a sprinkling of power users who never or rarely rotate accounts who everyone ‘knows’, and a sprinkling of outright malicious users who use anonymity to sow chaos in various ways. the latter two groups seem to also be where the worst irony poisoning comes from
Yeah and being extremely online still didn’t save me from the embarassment of making this post. its highly overrated.
I’m sure everyone has their own tolerance level for it but I don’t completely disagree. the grad can feel a bit stuffy but times like this I wonder if that’s not for the best.
But I will say hexbear is 98% fine for me, as an insider. I mostly get the jokes, and there’s some social norms about what is and isn’t appropriate in which comms. its a relatively few people who take things way past where I’d draw the line, both in bits and in just like, sheer aggression and uncharitability/uncomradely behavior
Its fine to ask others to explain you the joke/bit/troll if you didnt understand it
Sucks that I just have to assume everything is some irony poisoned bullshit and try to parse it as an inscrutable joke, and then fail, and then ask everyone else to explain to me like I’m a baby. I don’t have this issue anywhere else in my life, even online, I never have. Frankly I don’t think it’s good or acceptable behavior, it just feels socially corrosive, but I probably just need to log off.
unfortunately this is a lemmygrad acct lol, can’t see this post on hb
but others appear to be showing up?
Test?
yeah but nobody knows what that is (or at least I barely do and I’m extremely online)
it’s a mastodon instance
Reading Liberalism: A Counter-History and I finally feel like I’m getting to the really juicy bits (2/3 through the book. The earlier half was good and probably a necessary foundation, but got a bit repetitive-feeling).
first off if any motherfucker invokes divine providence to justify inequality: gulag
second: liberal theorists love to draw arbitrary lines in the sand and say that their principles and reasoning only apply to one side. The distinction they drew between “civil” and “political” laws, or the “totally good and normal laws that help the rich” vs the “impermissible welfare laws interfering with the divine will of providence that the poor stay in poverty”, the exclusion of labour relations as an inherently non-political question, etc. Often these seeming contradictions and their unconvincing justifications follow from unquestioned beliefs like the inferiority of “other races”, the belief that the poor deserve to be poor, and simple self-centeredness (only considering the freedoms of people like them, typically upper-class, of the dominant racial group, etc. and disregarding the lack of freedoms accorded to other groups)
third: The quote about anti-semites and ridiculous arguments applies. They will in one breath condemn you as backwards and wishing to bring back absolute monarchism by expanding the state, bring back medieval forms like the guild in the form of unions, or take on the pre-modern role of the established church (providing welfare is equated with the church’s organized charity), and in the next breath glorify the past as a simpler time when people (serfs) weren’t so uppity, but also a golden age of individualism (for Great Men, anyhow, entirely disregarding the lack of autonomy of the serfs, and of course disregarding great/influential individuals leading uprisings against them, e.g. Toussaint L’Ouverture.) Much of this is echoed in modern discourse. Using necessary force to implement the will of the people against the formerly powerful, is condemned as authoritarian, while using more distributed power structures to confine the majority of the population in effective servitude is totally fine and normal and Democratic even.
fourth: We should be mindful of those we ally with and their reasonings. The christian abolitionists in the US were on the right side of history when condemning and fighting the chattel slavery practiced in the south, but their reasons for hating it were not necessarily aligned with a purely socialist perspective. They tended to see it more in terms of the sinfulness it enabled on the part of slaveholders(sexual assault was pervasive, among other things), of not allowing slaves to be converted to christianity, and of forcing them to be complicit in the above sin, so when slavery was officially abolished (outside of prisons, anyhow), the christian-fueled radicalism of the abolitionists crumbled, despite the persistence of incredible levels of oppression against the freed slaves in the south, both politically and economically, not to mention the blind spot many had for the oppression of Black people in the north. For many, their conviction against slavery came more from the sin aspect than from a genuine belief in equality, or even in simply improving the lives of the enslaved.
I could probably write more but I don’t have the time. The book is good.
hexbear down :/
How am I supposed to slack off at work now
I’ve downvoted this post from lemmygrad. Doesn’t appear to be federating so far
edit: yeah it shows up on lemmy.ml but is ignored by hexbear. There may have been a change in the logic with 0.19.4/5
they are now on a modern variant of lemmy, but still pretty customized. There is a small compatibility issue with mobile apps being worked on but otherwise yes. I believe they are workign on porting their changes to v0.18.1 of lemmy now.
lemmy.world is run by the same people as mastodon.world and it is already donation funded. They post financial updates on their blog: https://blog.mastodon.world/
they have been funded by grants from NLnet (I think from EU funds?) but I think are transitioning to donation-based.
yeah. I was hoping that wasn’t them tbh.