As someone who is not from the US I have to say: this “meme” is very biased and one sided. Most of you do not even understand how one sided it is. You are taking your moderate opinion and comparing it with the most extreme opinion of the other side. If the other side did this they would say:
One side just wants that they stop killing babies
The other side wants to brainwash children into mutilating their own bodies.
Ok, except the US right literally has an out in the open plan for implementing a fascist dictatorship called project 2025. You can go read it yourself. This is not some small wing of the party. Basically every single Congressperson and senator is backing this.
Routine circumcision in the US wouldn’t be a thing if it weren’t for Dr. Kellogg of all people. Yes, as in the cereal company. Same guy who invented Corn Flakes.
To say he was strongly anti-masturbation would be putting it mildly. He believed in a bland diet, and called for routine circumcision because he believed it would reduce masturbation in boys. He also had a procedure for girls that involved burning the clitoris with acid, but that one didn’t become nearly so popular. Probably because of it also being a Jewish (and less importantly Muslim) custom.
There have been pushed to ban the practice in some places in the world, but they usually get shot down over claims of antisemitism. It’s apparently OK to make Sikhs nerf the kirpan down to being wholly symbolic because it’s not readily compatible with modern western civilization, but not to ban cutting on health baby dicks because Jews do it. I’ll sound like a conspiracy theorist for saying this, but that’s probably because there’s more lobbying money behind western Jews than behind western Sikhs.
The OP is a bit exaggerated, you’re right, but it not too far from the truth: Trump, the president that started a coup, is running for president stating only he can fix the problems the US has which would include removing all the leftist vermin (extremely fascist). White supremacists and nazis don’t make up a majority of his support, but most if not all of them do support him (bringing back nazis and bringing back “slavery” in the form of giving power to white supremacists). Trump likes to use dog whistle showing his support for them, while also not rebuking those same groups of people.
The crazy things the far left wants to do is… help trans kids using procedures backed by science and supported by most major countries(and to clarify, by procedures I mean non-permanent hormone treatment, rather than permanent surgeries).
We’re basically talking about the right trying to prop up a treasonous authoritarian, who utilizes the help of Nazis, white supremacists and religious zealots who want to take away women’s rights vs the left that is trying to help kids.
No such thing. HRT has permanent effects. For example, estrogen triggers breast growth, testosterone will change your voice, delaying puberty with blockers impacts final height, etc.
What would be more interesting to look into is that there have been studies that suggest hormone changes in adolescence effect brain development during that time. But not any that I’m aware of that ask the question of if/how hormone blockers effect that. Unfortunately, I don’t think a study like that would be publishable these days unless it arrived at the right outcome politically (and a study like that is less likely to be performed as a result).
Except the right is actively pushing to make women property, working with nazis and nazi sympathizers, undermining the education system, undermining social services, undermining workers rights, ect.
The (by comparison) left certainly doesn’t have clean hands, but they aren’t brainwashing or mutilating children.
And it’s not like the “just want to stop killing babies”. If that were the case they would be supporting social services and social safety nets for families. They would show SOME kind of care for the children AFTER they’re born too.
It isn’t biased, it’s just accurately describing reality.
The challenge is, especially in the US, the moderate side of the right arguments don’t seem to be made anywhere. All the party is pushing are the extreme views so it does appear to be exactly this in the media (which is where the majority of people are influenced by regardless of it’s right or not).
Then all you have to do is point at scientific evidence showing no children is mutilating their body, nor “babies are being murdered”. Right wingers reject empirical evidence. Your example holds no water at all and completely misrepresent what even the left advocates for. And keep in mind that abortion is even popular on both sides of the aisle.
You’re comparing a bad faith manipulation of policy descriptions to objectively stated goals of both sides
Killing babies and brainwashing children are known shock and scare rhetorical isms within the US, in the US the Left wants to institute healthcare, and the Right wants to, in brief, repeal the 20th century and a decent chunk of the 19th too.
As someone who is not from the US I have to say: this “meme” is very biased and one sided. Most of you do not even understand how one sided it is. You are taking your moderate opinion and comparing it with the most extreme opinion of the other side. If the other side did this they would say:
One side just wants that they stop killing babies
The other side wants to brainwash children into mutilating their own bodies.
Ok, except the US right literally has an out in the open plan for implementing a fascist dictatorship called project 2025. You can go read it yourself. This is not some small wing of the party. Basically every single Congressperson and senator is backing this.
“And it’s our job to do that when we circumcise them!”
Routine circumcision in the US wouldn’t be a thing if it weren’t for Dr. Kellogg of all people. Yes, as in the cereal company. Same guy who invented Corn Flakes.
To say he was strongly anti-masturbation would be putting it mildly. He believed in a bland diet, and called for routine circumcision because he believed it would reduce masturbation in boys. He also had a procedure for girls that involved burning the clitoris with acid, but that one didn’t become nearly so popular. Probably because of it also being a Jewish (and less importantly Muslim) custom.
There have been pushed to ban the practice in some places in the world, but they usually get shot down over claims of antisemitism. It’s apparently OK to make Sikhs nerf the kirpan down to being wholly symbolic because it’s not readily compatible with modern western civilization, but not to ban cutting on health baby dicks because Jews do it. I’ll sound like a conspiracy theorist for saying this, but that’s probably because there’s more lobbying money behind western Jews than behind western Sikhs.
The OP is a bit exaggerated, you’re right, but it not too far from the truth: Trump, the president that started a coup, is running for president stating only he can fix the problems the US has which would include removing all the leftist vermin (extremely fascist). White supremacists and nazis don’t make up a majority of his support, but most if not all of them do support him (bringing back nazis and bringing back “slavery” in the form of giving power to white supremacists). Trump likes to use dog whistle showing his support for them, while also not rebuking those same groups of people. The crazy things the far left wants to do is… help trans kids using procedures backed by science and supported by most major countries(and to clarify, by procedures I mean non-permanent hormone treatment, rather than permanent surgeries). We’re basically talking about the right trying to prop up a treasonous authoritarian, who utilizes the help of Nazis, white supremacists and religious zealots who want to take away women’s rights vs the left that is trying to help kids.
No such thing. HRT has permanent effects. For example, estrogen triggers breast growth, testosterone will change your voice, delaying puberty with blockers impacts final height, etc.
What would be more interesting to look into is that there have been studies that suggest hormone changes in adolescence effect brain development during that time. But not any that I’m aware of that ask the question of if/how hormone blockers effect that. Unfortunately, I don’t think a study like that would be publishable these days unless it arrived at the right outcome politically (and a study like that is less likely to be performed as a result).
Except the right is actively pushing to make women property, working with nazis and nazi sympathizers, undermining the education system, undermining social services, undermining workers rights, ect.
The (by comparison) left certainly doesn’t have clean hands, but they aren’t brainwashing or mutilating children.
And it’s not like the “just want to stop killing babies”. If that were the case they would be supporting social services and social safety nets for families. They would show SOME kind of care for the children AFTER they’re born too.
It isn’t biased, it’s just accurately describing reality.
The challenge is, especially in the US, the moderate side of the right arguments don’t seem to be made anywhere. All the party is pushing are the extreme views so it does appear to be exactly this in the media (which is where the majority of people are influenced by regardless of it’s right or not).
If all they are pushing is the extreme views, perhaps it is because those have become their CORE views
Then all you have to do is point at scientific evidence showing no children is mutilating their body, nor “babies are being murdered”. Right wingers reject empirical evidence. Your example holds no water at all and completely misrepresent what even the left advocates for. And keep in mind that abortion is even popular on both sides of the aisle.
I personally enjoy killing babies early in the morning and save their blood for the evening, i d hate that to stop
You’re missing their point
Bad faith framing of the issue by utilizing a false equivalency based on half-truths.
God I hope this is a feeble attempt at sarcasm. Otherwise you likely live in Uganda or Indonesia, in which case, my condolences.
Is it cuz you’re only attracted to the cis kids?
You’re comparing a bad faith manipulation of policy descriptions to objectively stated goals of both sides
Killing babies and brainwashing children are known shock and scare rhetorical isms within the US, in the US the Left wants to institute healthcare, and the Right wants to, in brief, repeal the 20th century and a decent chunk of the 19th too.
You may be right but for Republicans that usually doesn’t matter.