In a comment shared by r/Apple moderator @aaronp613, Reddit cited its Moderator Code of Conduct and said that it has a duty to keep communities “relied upon by thousands or even millions of users” operational. Mods who do not agree to reopen subreddits that have gone private will be removed.
If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users. If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.
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Let them do it, only pushes more people to alternatives.
It might push more power users away. It won’t push away the teeming masses.
Quality will suffer, but they’ll keep their traffic.
I can live with that. Actually, I would be happy with that if that means those power users will be coming here.
Yeah but there will still be decay. The teeming masses are there to see what the power users are doing. A dip in content quality will lead to a migration like what came a couple years after the Digg migration when the Stumbleupon folks needed a new home
I wish, but I’ve seen a bunch of redditors in the last few days say they didn’t even know 3rd party apps existed. Even complaining about the blackouts how all it’s doing is hurting the users. Idk if those are bots, paid comments, or what, but I’m sure a lot of people actually think that and it’s sooo frustrating.
It won’t happen overnight. Reddit will be slowly bleeding users in the coming months and after lemmyverse reaches critical mass, there will be no going back.
Plenty of newer reddit users legitimately think reddit itself is just an app and have no clue there’s even a desktop site. I’ve blown some minds when I mentioned the fact that I’d been using the best third party app RiF for over a decade and used old reddit on desktop.
they didn’t even know 3rd party apps existed.
then they shall remain in the blackest ocean abyss with lidless eyes forever staring at the dark. ignorant and doomed despite their eternal vigilance
Mods don’t have a duty to do shit, Reddit doesn’t pay them anything, doesn’t even offer premium at a discount or anything.
Maybe if Reddit was more concerned with not creating a toxic hellspace, they wouldn’t need to rely on volunteers to keep their billion dollar corporation running smoothly. Everything about this pisses me off so fucking bad.
Where do they get off saying mods have a DUTY to them, when they LITERALLY are volunteers and reddit gives them nothing.
And maybe if Reddit wasn’t killing third party mod tools…like the moderation still isn’t gonna be the same no matter how many people you appoint bc you killed the tools that made it possible.
Reddit doesn’t pay them anything, doesn’t even offer premium at a discount or anything.
But it offers them a tiny bit of power, via being a internet janitor. I’m certain that there’s a decent amount of people who will jump at the opportunity to become a moderator of a large subreddit. They are obviously the worst people to wield such power - just like anyone in the real world who seeks power is least likely to use it for good.
Moderation will be low quality, but it will remove spam. As long as the content mill keeps running all is fine. Users of the tiktokified official Reddit app won’t even notice a thing.
If your looking to become a mod for power, sorry the position is not for you
At least it’ll fall apart entirely once they appoint kids who desperately want to be Reddit mods after no one else will do it. If they want to run every subreddit themselves, they can, but it will only hurt them immensely.
Imagine being the only mod in a large subreddit, leading an army of untrained recruits. What does that mean for the health of that community? The quality of the subjects and posts isn’t going to be very good, particularly if people start birigading or something.
They are getting rid of their best volunteers.
They don’t care, they just want the community to be open so that they can have the most content the users can scroll through while seeing their precious ads.
Value of the content doesn’t really matter i guess…
They’re digging their own graves.
Diggit
Digg, get it?
Whatever this turns out to be it will establish a precedent that all social media conglomerates will set the bar at.
There’s always the nuclearoption: ban everyone, remove everything on the way out the door. I’m sure reddit admins can reverse it, they probably store everything in the database to sell later, but at least if they try to pull that stunt replacing mods they can be in for a huge pain in the ass.
Well, there you have it. The “we only care about money” we were waiting for /s. Expect changes to increase profit to affect users even more than this, reddit as we knew it is dead
We were all expecting that, I’m surprised that they didn’t do it earlier.
I don’t get why mods haven’t at least made sticky threads in every sub where they simply ask users to use uBlock Origin to block all Reddit ads and to check out backup communities on Lemmy?
Really good point here, that just makes somuch sense
and to check out backup communities on Lemmy?
I asked a few subs why they didn’t just point people to a clone community on Lemmy during the blackout. They said that Lemmy was too confusing for new users.
…sounds like a load of bs to me. I think the mods just like the way reddit works from the modding end and/or don’t want to lose their communities to other mods. Kind of immature if that’s the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
If you strike us down we will become more powerful than you can imagine…
All of Reddit’s benefits are going to be slowly stripped away. They are under the belief that market saturation is all they need to keep Reddit relevant, but that’s not the case.
surprising absolutely nobody…
The answer imo to this is to add people as approved posters and keep the subreddit going.
Classic strikebusting. “Oh you won’t work for an increasingly bad shake? Guess I’ll put these scabs in place instead.”
What’s stopping the entire mod team from nuking the sub? They can remove all formatting, ban the entire userbase and remove all mod bots.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Reddit has put rate-limiting in place to prevent mass actions like that.
Normally I wouldn’t give their engineers enough credit to figure something like that out, but in this case rate-limiting already exists for posts, comments, chat, etc.
Rollback on to a backup probably
And then Reddit restores from backup.
and opens themselves to brigading.
Aperently r/shadowwar has already done this
Can’t say I’m surprised.
No this was literally just a part of the contingency plan. The whole point of their API change is literally to push out anyone even mildly tech-savvy, and keep all the people who blindly just scroll through posts and consume the ads just like other content.
They did say that they would do it, after all.
