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Cyber Ghost@lemmygrad.ml to askchapo@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Did Che Guevara say this or is this quote misattributed?

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Did Che Guevara say this or is this quote misattributed?

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Cyber Ghost@lemmygrad.ml to askchapo@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • ikiru@lemmy.ml
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    If he didn’t, then I’m going to tell my children he did.

  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’m not a Cuban history expert or anything, but it seems like that quote is misattributed.

    I can’t find any info about a June 1961 speech in Algiera - but did find this transcript of a February 1965 speech at the same conference (Second Economic Seminar of Afro-Asian Solidarity, February 24, 1965) which makes me think the date on the meme is purposefully wrong - i.e. it sounds just correct enough. He does not mention fascists or bullets in that whole speech (but it’s a pretty good read - highly recommend!)

    It isn’t a Lenin quote either iirc - but I believe Sovietknuckles was just saying it sounds similar to “the kind Vladimir Ilyich would have shot everybody here” like the other commenter said.

    • Freeanotherday [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      He does not mention fascists or bullets in that whole speech

      sicko-wistful

  • sovietknuckles [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    kind-vladimir-ilyich

    • Cyber Ghost@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      And this means?

      • wheresmysurplusvalue [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGys0M_qSao

        Q: What would Vladimir Ilyich [Lenin] have done in this situation?

        A: The kind Vladimir Ilyich would have shot everybody here.

        it’s from a vice documentary on the Donetsk People’s Republic. If I remember right, this guy’s call sign was Vladimir Ilyich, and he just got out of some beef with a rival group of militia guys. So this is his response after being asked what Vladimir Ilyich [Lenin] would do.

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          Are you saying that the quote is from Lenin or is this video satire?

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            It’s not a quote from Lenin, the words are from the guy in the video. It was more like a dark joke during a difficult time (start of the civil war in Ukraine) where different groups of opportunists try to take control in an unstable situation. More like a play on words that his call sign is Vladimir Ilyich, and the joke was that he was being asked what he will do, yet he answered what Lenin would do

        • HexReplyBot [none/use name]@hexbear.netB
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          I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

          • yewtu.be
          • inv.zzls.xyz
          • yt.artemislena.eu
          • piped.video

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