Palestinian officials said two newborns died and dozens were at risk after fuel ran out. Hamas said it destroyed some Israeli military targets while an Israeli military spokesperson said Hamas had lost control of northern Gaza.
One video of them shooting at a hospital, one video of tanks in alleys, and one video of a single man in a street with an RPG.
This is not evidence of anything. It’s as much evidence of hospitals being command centers as a picture of an RV was evidence for mobile chemical weapons labs in Iraq.
Probably shouldn’t use paywalled sources to prove your point bud, especially ones that don’t seem to be in amnesty.org (the official website, not an wapo editorial.)
Those all seem to be attacks of opportunity not thought out, well supplied hit and runs like you would expect for “thousands of miles of tunnels” or a “sizable underground garrison”. You’d expect combat closer to Vietnamese rat nest attacks of Israel were at all correct.
Ed: you last source doesn’t even say it’s happening, it says they condemn it, essentially “if your doing it, stop doing it”.
Your link goes to a page about Palestinians being tortured.
I haven’t seen anything but condemnation because no one has actual evidence it’s happening, Israel who are the most adamant that it’s happening won’t show proof.
That article also condemns using hospitals, it didn’t however say it is happening. They are couching statements because Israel says it is happening and the concept is at the very least plausible and condemnation appeases Israeli allies.
You haven’t provided proof, you’ve provided statements of condemnation, that’s different. I can condemn the use of the trashcan at the end of the alley as a toilet, that doesn’t actually mean anyone’s been shitting in the trashcan just that I think if it happened it would be abhorrent.
Notably absent any actual evidence and it’s not like the US would lie to exert influence and justify international conflict.
I remember we stormed that one country because they had “weapons of mass destruction” and 20 years later we found so goddamn many… No wait we found none and were proven to have known there weren’t ever any.
I never said they didn’t use tunnels. I said the only evidence for the hospitals being used is “Israel Says”. You can’t just throw random articles as “sources”. They need to actually back up your point and credibly. A tunnel in visual range of a hospital is not it. A blog with unsubstantiated claims is not it. A major news article that doesn’t say anything about hospitals, is not it.
And please stop trying to reply to me in two places with the same thing.
Sure bro, I have more sources. Just tell me which site or source I should actually use so you don’t call me a mindless idiot and downvote me. Challenge accepted
Says Israel with no evidence. Every single international aid NGO active in the area denies it.
In 2015, Amnesty International claimed that hospitals are used as Hamas bases.
They have also already supplied evidence of some hospitals being used by Hamas to fire at the IDF. 1 2 3
If you don’t trust Israel, then here’s the EU telling Hamas to stop using hospitals as shields
One video of them shooting at a hospital, one video of tanks in alleys, and one video of a single man in a street with an RPG.
This is not evidence of anything. It’s as much evidence of hospitals being command centers as a picture of an RV was evidence for mobile chemical weapons labs in Iraq.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/13/politics/al-shifa-hospital-us-intelligence/index.html
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed
You already showed this to me.
Probably shouldn’t use paywalled sources to prove your point bud, especially ones that don’t seem to be in amnesty.org (the official website, not an wapo editorial.)
Those all seem to be attacks of opportunity not thought out, well supplied hit and runs like you would expect for “thousands of miles of tunnels” or a “sizable underground garrison”. You’d expect combat closer to Vietnamese rat nest attacks of Israel were at all correct.
Ed: you last source doesn’t even say it’s happening, it says they condemn it, essentially “if your doing it, stop doing it”.
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I condemn your idiocy.
Neat, love how you think that works.
You can use a paywall bypass, I use 12ft.io, but here’s the Amnesty article anyway.
They do say it’s happening. What are you on about?
Your link goes to a page about Palestinians being tortured.
I haven’t seen anything but condemnation because no one has actual evidence it’s happening, Israel who are the most adamant that it’s happening won’t show proof.
That article also condemns using hospitals, it didn’t however say it is happening. They are couching statements because Israel says it is happening and the concept is at the very least plausible and condemnation appeases Israeli allies.
You haven’t provided proof, you’ve provided statements of condemnation, that’s different. I can condemn the use of the trashcan at the end of the alley as a toilet, that doesn’t actually mean anyone’s been shitting in the trashcan just that I think if it happened it would be abhorrent.
Notably absent any actual evidence and it’s not like the US would lie to exert influence and justify international conflict.
I remember we stormed that one country because they had “weapons of mass destruction” and 20 years later we found so goddamn many… No wait we found none and were proven to have known there weren’t ever any.
To add to that, the US confirms it as well
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/13/politics/al-shifa-hospital-us-intelligence/index.html
Ironically this will probably be down voted as well since this sub is infested with Russian trolls
CNN printed an anonymous source without corroboration. The last time we swallowed bullshit that hard we invaded Iraq.
Just tell me which source you want.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/world/middleeast/11hamas.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&ref=world&
https://youtu.be/yA078T9CJGM?si=gJ0xr2ouv_yEiZdl
I never said they didn’t use tunnels. I said the only evidence for the hospitals being used is “Israel Says”. You can’t just throw random articles as “sources”. They need to actually back up your point and credibly. A tunnel in visual range of a hospital is not it. A blog with unsubstantiated claims is not it. A major news article that doesn’t say anything about hospitals, is not it.
And please stop trying to reply to me in two places with the same thing.
To add to what the other poster said, the US confirms it as well as Europe
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/13/politics/al-shifa-hospital-us-intelligence/index.html
Hey the last time I heard that I got sent to look for mobile chemical weapons labs in Iraq with a few thousand buddies.
So yeah until they show us the evidence I’m not going believe bombing children in hospitals is at all justified.
That’s fair. Here’s more although I have a feeling you will throw this away too
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/israel-video-evidence-hamas-operations-gaza-hospital
They promised signs of hostages, a command center, and an arms room. They showed a toilet, a bed, and some baby supplies.
Please tell me you’re not this gullible? There’s a reason you found that on Twitter and the Washington Examiner.
Sure bro, I have more sources. Just tell me which site or source I should actually use so you don’t call me a mindless idiot and downvote me. Challenge accepted
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed
Just stop. I responded to your other comment with more links. Shotgunning responses with bad sources is a troll tactic.