SDF Chatter
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml to Ireland / Éire@lemmygrad.ml · 2 years ago

Ireland is voting on a motion to expel the Israel ambassador next week

lemmygrad.ml

message-square
37
fedilink
75

Ireland is voting on a motion to expel the Israel ambassador next week

lemmygrad.ml

LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml to Ireland / Éire@lemmygrad.ml · 2 years ago
message-square
37
fedilink
  • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 years ago

    The neoliberal parties Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil, The Green Party who are now in government together are unsurprisingly pro US and so their policies and actions for one from this. At best they’ll make subs scolding statements about Israel but they’ll oppose anything meaningful.

    People Before Profit are outspoken about Israel and have been demanding the expulsion of the ambassador from early on.

    Social Democrats have just come around to support for the ambassador’s expulsion.

    Sinn Féin, highly expected to lead the next government have been quiet until very recently following a public shaming from PBP. They’d prefer not to rock the boat with the US because unfortunately they’re selling out and have been for a long time. Their voter base have very different opinions but don’t yet realise how badly they’re going to be betrayed following their election.

    • KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 years ago

      It’s a shame about Sinn Fein. Seems like People Before Profit are the best party in Ireland

      • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 years ago

        It’s just the limits of electoralism. The ruling parties have the media in thrall and constantly run attack pieces against SF and others. Then they crybully when they go over the line and get sued.

    • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      This is likely to be misread by non-Irish people.

      All parties condemn Israel, support recognising Palestinian statehood, support South Africa’s genocide case.

      Saying things like “pro US and so their policies and actions for one from this” and “prefer not to rock the boat with the US” makes it sound like there are pro-Israel political parties in Ireland. There are none.

      • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael have consistently been open, vocal supporters of Israel, as I believe are the Labour party. I don’t know where you’re getting your ideas from.

        • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael have consistently been open, vocal supporters of Israel

          Harris is after calling Israel repulsive: https://lemmy.ml/post/14210216

          I’m not trying to defend FG, but why are you lying?

          • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Jesus man. You’re going to lie in plain view while saying I’m lying? Are you Israeli or something?

            He called actions repulsive, not Israel. And only the actions of a single individual. FFS.

            He supports Israel and openly says so. He condemns the Palestinian resistance to its genocide.

            Martin went there and famously pointed to a hole in a ceiling and said nothing about the mass murder until very recently.

            They still haven’t expelled the ambassador.

            • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/03/27/ireland-to-intervene-in-south-africas-case-against-israel-over-gaza-invasion/

              • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Yeah what about it? Six months later they caved to pressure after supporting the genocide. So what?

                • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cowen-condemns-israeli-action-and-voices-dismay-over-un-s-role-1.1232151

                  https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cowen-calls-on-israel-to-withdraw-from-gaza-1.833744

                  https://www.independent.ie/world-news/cowen-and-erekat-condemn-gaza-attack-as-unjustifiable-25915122.html

                  https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2023-11-15/43/?highlight[0]=Tá

                  https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2021-05-25/9/

                  • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    These links are almost a decade old. What do they have to say about current government or political parties?

                    Use your words.

                • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  after supporting the genocide

                  Stop lying you weirdo

                  • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    What’s happening in this picture?

        • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I’m surprised at the amount of disinfo on Lemmy. Where are you from?

          https://labour.ie/news/2023/10/18/israel-must-be-held-to-account-for-horrendous-war-crimes/

          Varadkar: “Israel must reverse its precipitous decision to authorise a land incursion into Rafah. And after 100 years of violence, as you said, the only secure future lies in two states peaceful and sovereign, side by side. Ireland stands ready to recognise a Palestinian state with like-minded partners when it is most helpful for peace.”

          https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0423/1445100-micheal-martin-middle-east/

          https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/micheal-martin-says-israel-tried-to-undermine-unrwa-as-independent-report-finds-country-provided-no-evidence-of-hamas-links/a1681110605.html

          Micheál Martin criticises Israel after latest bombing of Gaza Strip, Martin said he believes Israel has broken international humanitarian law: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L4HtxAz-Jg

          https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/02/15/israels-disinformation-campaign-against-unrwa-must-not-undermine-its-life-saving-mandate-tanaiste/

          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/02/ireland-criticism-israel-eu-palestinian-rights

          https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0406/1441986-fine-gael-ard-fheis/

          https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/26/ireland-supports-landmark-motion-condemn-israeli-de-facto-annexation-palestine

          https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/11/simon-harris-to-raise-irelands-intention-to-recognise-palestine-with-von-der-leyen/

          https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/02/14/no-concerns-irelands-position-on-gaza-war-could-cause-diplomatic-strain-with-us-says-harris/

          https://www.finegael.ie/private-members-business-palestine/

          https://www.finegael.ie/minister-brophy-pledges-support-to-un-agency-for-palestine-refugees/

          https://labour.ie/news/2024/04/11/palestinian-statehood-must-be-urgently-recognised/

          https://labour.ie/news/2024/04/11/palestinian-statehood-must-be-urgently-recognised/

          https://labour.ie/news/2024/01/23/political-posturing-on-gaza-preventing-progress/

          • TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.mlB
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

            • yewtu.be
            • inv.nadeko.net
            • yt.artemislena.eu
            • piped.video

Ireland / Éire@lemmygrad.ml

ireland@lemmygrad.ml

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !ireland@lemmygrad.ml

Welcome to Ireland

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 1 user / day
  • 1 user / week
  • 14 users / month
  • 65 users / 6 months
  • 2 local subscribers
  • 299 subscribers
  • 34 Posts
  • 63 Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • BobbyBlock@lemmygrad.ml
  • Frankie@lemmygrad.ml
  • BE: 0.19.8
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org