Which is why “let people enjoy things” is a meaningless statement when separated from its original context, which is people insulting randos over random shit, which is exactly what is happening here.

It got perverted and used for generic treat defense, as all things eventually do, and of course was rendered completely meaningless in the process, but this does not justify the behavior of attacking those who do not deserve it, instead merely demonstrating how depraved liberals are and to what stretches they will go to prevent their blatant fascist tendencies from being unveiled.

When viewed through this lense, almost all modern usage of this term (notably except the top level comment you replied to) is completely meaningless.

But in this case, it is actually being used in its original intention, or, if it is not it’s original intention (idk I’m no internet history expert), it’s at least being used in a novel and unique way.

This is not “treat defense”. Me and the top level content have no treats they are even defending. Instead, it is “treat criticism”, a criticism of the “treat” of attacking and berating internet randos for no reason. That is a legitimate criticism, and is not a thought terminating cliche. It is a legitimate concern over the absurd toxicity present.

So your answer is apparently to call me “really stupid” for doing that with three question marks, all while presuming I was insulting you, all because you apparently feel so defensive about your treats that criticisms of those treats (or maybe even the bad parts of their fandom) are taken like personal attacks.

I have literally not watched a single marvel movie in what is likely a year and last time I did it was probably because of my family. I literally can’t remember, and I couldn’t give a single fuck about the brand and in fact hate literally all of it and wish it would die.

You are the one acting defensive about having a treat criticized. I have absolutely no stake in Marvel. I do not care about Marvel. What I do care about is my comrades not being asses for no reason, and that is what I’m concerned about. And, unlike consuming terrible slop, insulting people who don’t deserve it is directly harmful behavior.

Actually it kind of is here, especially how you frame it with such excessively ungenerous presumptive portrayal, and declared what you think I thought was “really stupid” with three question marks. You don’t want me to share what I think here, and maybe even don’t want me to think it at all. In other words, you apparently do want my thoughts policed.

The point isn’t that it isn’t a form of verbal suppression (yes, it is, yes, I do think insults against people over things that are not actually harmful should in fact be suppressed), but that it is a blatantly silly thing to consider bad because it is literally just normal social behavior.

Like, honestly, yeah, I’m thought policing, and I’m fine with it. If your treats being criticized and thought policed pisses you off so much maybe you shouldn’t consume them. Or are you going to tell me to just let you enjoy things?

This isn’t town. I don’t give a single fuck if what I’m saying is “authoritarian” or whatever. Unironically, it would make me much happier if you and everyone else were to think of these things in terms of social systems instead of hating random people who mean no harm and probably just like shit because their meemaw said Thor was cool or something, and I am not ashamed of that.

Edit: and I am sorry about the tone of my first comment, and somewhat this one. It isn’t even remotely acceptable. My only excuse is that it seems to be the only way to get through to people online, in my experience. I do respect you and part of why I even bring this up is because I respect you and the rest of the people I’m criticizing over this. I wouldn’t care nearly as much if you were all just random people, but I know for a fact that this can be a kind and caring community and is very often, and I despise what I see as an obstacle to that not being taken seriously, or worse, dismissed out of hand because of the superficial absurdity of it. I know it’s weird to give a fuck about what a bunch of people on the internet say about someone I don’t care about online, but I know that this case is innocent and innocuous enough that it would be trivial for that anger to turn around and target both myself or basically anyone else on here. I don’t want that to be this community and it’s sad to me that I don’t even know how to really communicate that feeling without it being drowned out and lost in the sea of internet irony poisoning and detachment. I will not respond further until I return from logging off, and again I am really sorry about how rude I have been. Thank you for reading this massive text block.

Constant internal argument, struggle, and contradiction, absolutely primes you to body the nearest lib.

and the cat likes lasagna

EXACTLY and it’s like who doesn’t?! It’s just so relatable!

I highly respect that as a hater in recovery myself

You will never get me to believe it’s ok that society’s culture revolves around marvelbrained baby slop.

You’re a Thanos to our Avengers; HEXBEARS ASSEMBLE!

What an individualistic attitude towards it.

Do you really think these individual, random fuckers have any power over what kind of content they are really exposed to, what kind of media is socially acceptable?

Yes. I also despise marvel and will say that whenever I want. But the random individuals that make it up aren’t deserving of actual hatred or mockery for enjoying it. Their friends enjoy it. Their friends of friends enjoy it. I’m not saying we should just “let people enjoy things”, I’m saying that our criticisms of the things need to be of the things themselves, and not “infantile mannerisms” or weird moralistic statements about people who fundamentally only really watch this stuff because all their friends talk about it and they want to be fun and cool to their friends.

It is certainly your right to despise others and have whatever feelings you have about them, but it is not your right to express hatred or ridicule them and it is not revolutionary or cool to do it all the time. We are not liberals who “say whatever we want” because it feels good to dunk on the “unenlightened, unwashed masses”. We are socialists who are supposed to actually understand those masses and give them what they want. We are not preachers, we are teachers.

The criticism of Marvel has, frankly, reached a stagnant stage. It is not intense enough. This anger directed towards individual “Disney adults” is fundamentally a misdirection, an individualization of a social issue, a complete stop in the development of any truly revolutionary ideas that could come from our line of criticism.

Yes, dunking on libs who like marvel is extremely fun. But it’s just as brainless and non-constructive as the movies themselves. We don’t actually learn anything from it. We don’t help anything. We like to think we’re decreasing the power of the Marvel panopticon ever so slightly, but our online negging is likely meaningless in the face of the bare truth that these people barely have anything else to live for. Without Marvel slop, they would have nothing, live in a completely barren world with no color or purpose. And it is tempting to despise them for that, to say that we are different because some element of ourselves makes us special and superior.

But what element? Is it mental, physical?

I don’t think so. I think it’s all about social circumstance, and while I might be uniquely lib for this, the magic of bullying people is sort of taken away when I realize that I’m not actually doing some virtuous, revolutionary act. It just feels like kicking a malnutritioned puppy.

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