Title is pretty explicit, what do you think about separating church (or religion as a whole) from the state?

  • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    9·
    21 days ago

    from what i have observed, the path to curtail the influence of religion seems to be:

    1. lessen or remove hardships, people tend to turn to religion when they believe no one else can help them
    2. education, to lessen the more bigoted and reactionary currents
    3. enforcing speech laws on the clergy to stop them being a privileged class

    religion and spirituality itself isn’t really a problem, it’s the influence of it that is the issue

    • Dreammunist@lemmygrad.ml
      8·
      21 days ago

      Ive seen people say they don’t mind jesus teachings so much but rather dislike his fanclub for how they use it to oppress others

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      73·
      21 days ago

      religion and spirituality itself isn’t really a problem, it’s the influence of it that is the issue

      believing things that aren’t supported by evidence or contradict reality is a problem even if it’s not at the level of a powerful social institution. we would have eradicated measles were it not for those freaks. people forego medical treatment or deny it to their children over these beliefs.

      • SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
        46·
        21 days ago

        Lol, I want to see Marxists justifying a religious nut becoming a revolutionary leader. Wait, aren’t they? Wouldn’t a superstitious freak find his way into the CC in the Party? And do they know about it? Those guys are also political agents: they want hegemony as well. So no, I don’t believe education and better material conditions are enough to get rid of them.

        • fatur.new@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          20 days ago

          Wouldn’t a superstitious freak find his way into the CC in the Party?

          what is CC?

          • SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
            51·
            20 days ago

            Central Commitee in a Communist Party. As a centrist, what did you think it was? Like, making a wild guess?

            • fatur.new@lemmy.mlEnglish
              4·
              20 days ago

              Central Commitee in a Communist Party.

              thank you.

              As a centrist, what did you think it was? Like, making a wild guess?

              I didn’t think anything of it. I just forgot. although I am a centrist (more specifically a moderate radical centrist), I sympathize with socialism.