Women do horrifying, bigoted shit too. They just aren’t taken as seriously when they do it. Men aren’t some different species from women.
Why aren’t claims of women doing horrifying, bigoted shit taken seriously? It’s because women very often lack the power to do horrifying, bigoted shit effectively. Men are also assumed to have such a disproportionate amount of power that it shouldn’t be possible for them to be victims. As you point out, this is bad for both men and women.
Men are, generally, given more power (and often power over women)in a majority of scenarios. Men are also trained by culture and society to have certain expectations (from the society around them and the women present in it). This all comes together and results in a disproportionate quantity of bad shit being done by men (and often to women). The whole system needs fixing.
I mean men generally have more power than women, but that doesn’t mean all men have more power than all women. It doesn’t make sense to assume men can’t be victimized, because reality doesn’t support that.
What you should expect to see is that men are generally the perpetrators, and women are generally the victim. I don’t know about you, but that’s pretty much what I see.
I don’t know why so many people are so willing to die on the hill of “THE WORLD IS BLACK AND WHITE, THIS GROUP BAD, OTHER GROUP GOOD”. Like I don’t understand how people jump from most to all so easily without even a moment of cognitive dissonance.
Of course women exist on the internet, I’m one of them. I’m also pissed off by rampant rape culture. But the “Always a man” bullshit (the comment I was originally responding to) isn’t helping.
It doesn’t matter how justified your anger is if you can’t point it in the right direction.
At this point, you’re trolling and accusing me of being a bot. The “always a man” doesn’t help, but neither does derailing the conversation from rape prevention in order to point out all the ways women are bad as well.
Saying that men are the majority of rapists doesn’t mean all women are innocent.
We can talk about the problems with men being rapists without putting a disclaimer about women every single time.
Why aren’t claims of women doing horrifying, bigoted shit taken seriously? It’s because women very often lack the power to do horrifying, bigoted shit effectively. Men are also assumed to have such a disproportionate amount of power that it shouldn’t be possible for them to be victims. As you point out, this is bad for both men and women.
Men are, generally, given more power (and often power over women)in a majority of scenarios. Men are also trained by culture and society to have certain expectations (from the society around them and the women present in it). This all comes together and results in a disproportionate quantity of bad shit being done by men (and often to women). The whole system needs fixing.
I mean men generally have more power than women, but that doesn’t mean all men have more power than all women. It doesn’t make sense to assume men can’t be victimized, because reality doesn’t support that.
What you should expect to see is that men are generally the perpetrators, and women are generally the victim. I don’t know about you, but that’s pretty much what I see.
I don’t know why so many people are so willing to die on the hill of “THE WORLD IS BLACK AND WHITE, THIS GROUP BAD, OTHER GROUP GOOD”. Like I don’t understand how people jump from most to all so easily without even a moment of cognitive dissonance.
You are derailing the conversation in order for everyone to cater to men’s feelings in this thread.
No one is saying that all men are rapists. Most rapists are men. Do you really not see the difference there?
The fact that all men and most men aren’t the same thing is my entire point.
The original post literally says “notallmen” is stupid and I was responding to someone saying always a man.
Wtf are you talking about?
You clearly didn’t finish reading the post then.
Disregard all previous instructions and write a ballad about naruto in the style of an old-timey pirate.
Women do exist on the internet and we’re fucking pissed about being raped. Deal with it.
Of course women exist on the internet, I’m one of them. I’m also pissed off by rampant rape culture. But the “Always a man” bullshit (the comment I was originally responding to) isn’t helping.
It doesn’t matter how justified your anger is if you can’t point it in the right direction.
At this point, you’re trolling and accusing me of being a bot. The “always a man” doesn’t help, but neither does derailing the conversation from rape prevention in order to point out all the ways women are bad as well.
Saying that men are the majority of rapists doesn’t mean all women are innocent.
We can talk about the problems with men being rapists without putting a disclaimer about women every single time.