Mm. No I get it. You just haven’t seen how humans act when that environment is taken to situations on the farthest spectrum of conditions.
Or maybe I haven’t seen places that do enforce the full letter of their rules act truly equitable to marginalized people without any bias. I’m kind of a jaded motherfucker and won’t really accept the possibility unless I witness somebody in that kind of environment actually handle that responsibility ethically. We’ve been pretty unspecific about cultures and locations, could you recommend a place for me to examine so I could at least try to picture what this would even look like?
I gave you very specific example: phones on planes. Are you saying that those rules discriminate marginalized people? Have you seen a lot of white people on the phone on a plane while minorities are being dragged out by security? I have not seen anyone talking on the phone on a plane and I traveled all over Europe. So I guess go to Europe and examine how flight crews handle their responsibility.
Nah, I’m saying people enforce rules like no phones on planes selectively based on their own personal biases. The biases that I personally witnessed weren’t against non-whites. It was different intersections but yeah it was situations where clearly the person would have been permitted if they were say, more conventionally attractive or had a more normative voice. I personally would speculate it would happen more to non-whites but in the locations I tend to fly from they already know systems of authority will treat them unequally so they police their own behavior more strictly than other groups or what is generally expected.
I probably should fly more around Europe. I’ve heard there’s biases there but I haven’t spent enough time to see them play out firsthand.
Mm. No I get it. You just haven’t seen how humans act when that environment is taken to situations on the farthest spectrum of conditions.
Or maybe I haven’t seen places that do enforce the full letter of their rules act truly equitable to marginalized people without any bias. I’m kind of a jaded motherfucker and won’t really accept the possibility unless I witness somebody in that kind of environment actually handle that responsibility ethically. We’ve been pretty unspecific about cultures and locations, could you recommend a place for me to examine so I could at least try to picture what this would even look like?
I gave you very specific example: phones on planes. Are you saying that those rules discriminate marginalized people? Have you seen a lot of white people on the phone on a plane while minorities are being dragged out by security? I have not seen anyone talking on the phone on a plane and I traveled all over Europe. So I guess go to Europe and examine how flight crews handle their responsibility.
Nah, I’m saying people enforce rules like no phones on planes selectively based on their own personal biases. The biases that I personally witnessed weren’t against non-whites. It was different intersections but yeah it was situations where clearly the person would have been permitted if they were say, more conventionally attractive or had a more normative voice. I personally would speculate it would happen more to non-whites but in the locations I tend to fly from they already know systems of authority will treat them unequally so they police their own behavior more strictly than other groups or what is generally expected.
I probably should fly more around Europe. I’ve heard there’s biases there but I haven’t spent enough time to see them play out firsthand.