We recently blacklisted some of the IP’s that our LG tv was sending data to. I can’t believe the sheer number of requests logged in just 1 week! And what’s worse is LG is even denying it now
I think it’s time ya’ll start reading books again. TV sucks anyways.
Yes but books require some energy remaining in the body after work and family. A tv is great for exhausted people after their daily slave job.
I read books on vacations simply because I have the energy and focus for it then. Rarely do it at home.
LOT to be said for that.
Paper ones that don’t track everything you read. Old fashion paper. Browse your fav local bookstore. Or hit the library. Walk out with little stack of books. Read 'em over weeks or months. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Audio books for me. And no bobidy is tracking.
How can you be so sure about not being tracked?
Use a cd player
Incredible to see them thinking they have any deniability.
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Oh fuck off with this.
If you blacklisted the IPs, most of those are probably retries.
The poor thing is trapped 😢 there’s barely any data in its bowl
This is not an acurste way to see howvmany requests go out. Since it is blocked it well keep trying since it thinks there is something wrong.
Even so, that’s an insane amount of retries! I guess I would have thought it would retry a few times and end up in a DLQ or something. But perhaps it’s normal for IoT
Ehh, I know the software where I work makes endless attempts to connect too. That isn’t malicious, just shit. 4 year later its still trying again every 30 seconds. Logs are fucking massive.
Rule 0: don’t get any TV. Just get a office projector, paint your wall white or get a white cloth, get some nice sounding speakers and plug your PC to it.
Why would you want a white wall. You want ahitry contrast.
Or, you know, dont connect your TV to the Internet.
There’s TVs that can mesh together with other TVs until they find one that’s actually connected to the Internet, you might not connect your tv to WiFi but your neighbor does
Show me. I want a story about this. Never heard from it except from the comments. In the 2 hour long video they didn’t even say it did this.
Use your Libreelec Raspberry Pi.
Samsung does not fall back, my tv it is by far the device that makes more dns requests ar home
Disconnect it from the internet and use your own box or stick.
My LGTV from 2008 still works. I’m not sure that it knows what the internet is.
My 2013 LG TV didn’t have an updated firmware so it’s just a piece of shit UI that doesn’t serve ads.
When im forced to buy a new TV, I will make sure it works with no network connection at all, or I’m not buying it.
Can a pi Hole fix this? Using a Samsung smart TV
It can help, but the only thing that’s guaranteed to stop data exfiltration is disconnecting the WiFi hardware completely
While disconnecting it (wifi and copper) completely, solves the problem, it is not the only thing that’s guaranteed to work. Putting it in an isolated VLAN (or SSID for that matter) and closing down the firewall helps, too. While this certainly requires more skill than disconnecting wifi, it still allows to connect to jellyfin or the like without using additional hardware like chromecast.
You can fix it by disconnecting the internet and plugging in your own devices.
Depends, it can autoconnect silently via open wifi networks or other tv’s/iot devices that are friendly. Shitty companies will do anything to get their hand on as much data as they can.
I don’t think LG does that, however you should make sure the Wi-Fi switch is off (don’t just click forget) and if you’re paranoid, you can physically remove the Wi-Fi board.
LG very much tries to connect to random Wifi networks to leak your data, Gamers Nexus talks about it in their recent video.
Here’s an arstechnica article if you don’t got 2 hrs to spare 😅
Excerpt:
YouTube channel Gamers Nexus worked with Level1Techs, a technology-focused YouTube channel, and security researchers to analyze LG TVs’ tracking capabilities. They shared packet captures that pointed to the TVs, including LG’s pricey G5 OLED TV, scanning the LAN for other devices.
“The [G5] crawled our entire network and found dozens of unrelated devices, including smartwatches and phones of our staff who didn’t even know we were working on this,” Steve Burke, Gamers Nexus’ editor-in-chief, said.
LG’s ad business, LG Ad Solutions, has said in recent marketing materials that it can reach 363 million “addressable secondary devices” in the US.
It scanned for other devices on the currently connected Wi-Fi network.
Seconding that rec to disconnect wifi hw.
Some TVs have been found storing audio locally, then sending it if they ever get access to a network. Which can happen accidentally.
Yes, but how many open Wi-Fi signals are around your home? If you have open Wi-Fi signals that are around your home, then that’s also an issue.
What your neighbours do is out of your control, especially if you consider the averge person living next door doesnt think about (or understand) wifi past the very first time they type the password in “to make the internet work”.
This is most of the companies out there at this point have created secure connections on almost everything. Very few connections out there are actually unsecured at this point in time. They’ve made them dumb easy so that way they can mother them.
I think so.
Gotta pull that wifi mobile out.
Can’t you just block the MAC address in your router? Or does the family like to use the built in apps?
We mainly tried this first out of curiosity, and because the LG tv has some parental controls we use for the kids! But gonna have to find an alternative
Can you see data up/down? be interesting to know(or get more confirmation) if its sending ‘large’ media like audio files, and not just polling for e.g. ad flags, available updates etc
It’s transcribing audio locally (ever when offline) and uploads the text files after it’s reconnected
Also, it can hear like 60 feet and further
Source is the recent Gamers Nexus investigation into LG TVs
Love how these shitboxes can capture up to a screenshot every second, transcribe audio, and network all of that back to the supplier but the goddamn menu takes 5 seconds to open and lags when navigating
Probably why the menu is slow, cpu busy spying on you instead
I use NextDNS on my other devices but not on the LG untill now and we use it only for regular tv channels and a android mediabox via hdmi …
Does it help if I put Nextdns on all of them or apps like Netguard? And then block stuff?
Turn off the Wi-Fi in the settings on the LG. The antenna will still work.
The regular channels are “cable” which changed from coax to utp and a provider box … Oh wait am I confusing then streambox from my telecom provider with the LG onboard stuff …
That streambox is just HDMI so it will work perfecrly with the LG’s Wi-Fi off.
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