Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate.
You are conflating these numbers.
Using your numbers
42% says its important to them personally to read a form of bible (but we cannot even agree on which texts counts towards the definition of bible, not even Christians agree on that)
37% says its important but not essential to read the bible
There is going to be very strong overlap here, you cannot add these numbers up. Of course it
would be weird to call yourself Christian and never touch any of there philosophical texts.
Only 39% (which is like the exact number of the protestant branch which yeah deserves pretty much all you are throwing out here)
Claims the philosophy is a written by a magical being.
Its a big number but may i remind you that post-theism branches that rejected for example genesis, existed since before Protestant existed, before the roman church was founded.
They are still flow from the same philosophical source. Which is a handful of philosophical myths that describe the same story but also don’t agree with each-other. (At least one of them believed Jesus was a the human son of Joseph)
My first comment to you was to clarify that the bible and Christianity are an entire umbrella of different works, beliefs and ideas. You cannot pick one and claim it speaks for all of them. Not even the church agrees on it.
Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right.
I don’t believe in magical thinking, i dont ascribe to doctorine in any shape or form.
Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually?
Is that a bad word now too? If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. But this does feel like arguing sementics (which i admit to often get caught up with, but so do you)
I am not and have never defended a death cults, no one of the many people i know is in a death cult, and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that.
Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate.
IT’S NOT PRETENDING AND IT’S NOT BLIND.
READ THE GODDAM BIBLE.
IT IS A DEATH CULT.
FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS.
FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT.
Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form.
Name them.
The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right.
BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS.
I don’t believe in magical thinking
Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity.
Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually?
Because nothing is “spiritual”. It’s a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special.
You are very special. You don’t need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE.
Is that a bad word now too?
It’s a deadly mindset.
If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news.
STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right.
And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit.
I am not and have never defended a death cults
Liar, you’ve done it all throughout these comments and you’re still doing it.
no one of the many people i know is in a death cult
Liar, every christian you know is.
and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about.
Liar, it’s the definition of christ.
Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that.
The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.
Here we go again.
Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest
It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time.
There is no such thing as a singular bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of)
You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all.
No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English.
You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you.
Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest
It’s not nuanced, you’re defending death cults.
You are lying, and I highlighted each lie.
Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I’m still hearing a lie.
It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time.
It’s not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You’re pretending it doesn’t exist, that it doesn’t cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others’ belief in it.
There is no such thing as a singular bible.
We are talking about christianity. The christian bible.
There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of)
It’s in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment.
You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all.
Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I’d be happy if the damn thing had a “fiction” label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true.
No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English.
Useless, then. Focus on my points.
You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you.
Neither do you. Think really hard about what “christianity” means, what “christ” is in context.
More delusional and hateful then the average religious person.
Mr. Spiritual thinks I’m delusional.
MAGIC ISN’T REAL, DUMB FUCK.
I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them.
I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you’re a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer.
Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them.
No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that.
The ones who try to find a nicer “interpretation” are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly.
You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad”
HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does.
Christ is the character central to the philosophy.
That’s the problem. What is “christ”? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to.
The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy.
That’s really fucking stupid. “Christ” is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he’s also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies.
Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels.
Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now?
spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. Meditation is an example.
Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you.
Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible?
Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone.
I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil.
Do you think i think slave rape is good? Think harder. Use your brain.
Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion.
Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now?
You, “spiritual” dumbass.
spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience.
It’s the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren’t real.
Meditation is an example.
Meditation is a thought exercise. It’s a mental activity, not a magical one.
Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you.
Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You’ll get more like me.
Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible?
YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON.
Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone.
Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept.
I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil.
Then stop defending fascism.
Do you think i think slave rape is good?
Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape.
Do you know why they’re called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god’s first chosen people.
Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus?
It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god.
Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion.
Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate.
You are conflating these numbers.
Using your numbers
42% says its important to them personally to read a form of bible (but we cannot even agree on which texts counts towards the definition of bible, not even Christians agree on that)
37% says its important but not essential to read the bible
There is going to be very strong overlap here, you cannot add these numbers up. Of course it would be weird to call yourself Christian and never touch any of there philosophical texts.
Only 39% (which is like the exact number of the protestant branch which yeah deserves pretty much all you are throwing out here) Claims the philosophy is a written by a magical being.
Its a big number but may i remind you that post-theism branches that rejected for example genesis, existed since before Protestant existed, before the roman church was founded.
They are still flow from the same philosophical source. Which is a handful of philosophical myths that describe the same story but also don’t agree with each-other. (At least one of them believed Jesus was a the human son of Joseph)
My first comment to you was to clarify that the bible and Christianity are an entire umbrella of different works, beliefs and ideas. You cannot pick one and claim it speaks for all of them. Not even the church agrees on it.
Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right.
I don’t believe in magical thinking, i dont ascribe to doctorine in any shape or form. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually?
Is that a bad word now too? If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. But this does feel like arguing sementics (which i admit to often get caught up with, but so do you)
I am not and have never defended a death cults, no one of the many people i know is in a death cult, and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that.
IT’S NOT PRETENDING AND IT’S NOT BLIND.
READ THE GODDAM BIBLE.
IT IS A DEATH CULT.
FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS.
FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT.
I was abused because you reject reality.
A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys
Name them.
BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS.
Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity.
Because nothing is “spiritual”. It’s a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special.
You are very special. You don’t need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE.
It’s a deadly mindset.
STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right.
And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit.
Liar, you’ve done it all throughout these comments and you’re still doing it.
Liar, every christian you know is.
Liar, it’s the definition of christ.
The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.
Here we go again. Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest
It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time.
There is no such thing as a singular bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of)
You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all.
No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English.
You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you.
It’s not nuanced, you’re defending death cults.
You are lying, and I highlighted each lie.
Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I’m still hearing a lie.
It’s not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You’re pretending it doesn’t exist, that it doesn’t cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others’ belief in it.
We are talking about christianity. The christian bible.
It’s in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment.
Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I’d be happy if the damn thing had a “fiction” label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true.
Useless, then. Focus on my points.
Neither do you. Think really hard about what “christianity” means, what “christ” is in context.
It’s a death cult.
More delusional and hateful then the average religious person.
Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them.
You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad”
Christ is the character central to the philosophy. Thats pretty obvious.
The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy.
Mr. Spiritual thinks I’m delusional.
MAGIC ISN’T REAL, DUMB FUCK.
I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them.
I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you’re a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer.
No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that.
The ones who try to find a nicer “interpretation” are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly.
HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does.
That’s the problem. What is “christ”? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to.
That’s really fucking stupid. “Christ” is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he’s also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies.
Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels.
Who are you arguing against?
Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now?
spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. Meditation is an example.
Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you.
Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible?
Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone.
I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil.
Do you think i think slave rape is good? Think harder. Use your brain.
Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion.
You, slimy dipshit.
You, “spiritual” dumbass.
It’s the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren’t real.
Meditation is a thought exercise. It’s a mental activity, not a magical one.
Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You’ll get more like me.
YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON.
Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept.
Then stop defending fascism.
Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape.
Do you know why they’re called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god’s first chosen people.
Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus?
It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god.
Right, that’s why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult.
For fuck’s sake.
Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand
It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context
Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books.
Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss.
Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is.
After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher.