quit person with personal spiritual contemplations in their private home
I assume you mean “quiet” person.
But here’s the thing: religion affects beliefs. Beliefs drive our actions. Whether or not that shit comes out verbally, it still affects us all.
But I would not be responding if there was no offense in the first place. Too many times, it does not stay quiet. It comes out loud and aggressive.
I am willing to read proof that these people are the same evil as the institutions are but if that proof exists i think the bigger problem would be the apparent surveillance and thought police of peoples private mind that is required for that proof.
No, we only need to read the bible they get their beliefs from. It’s an abuser’s handbook. Psychotic. Deadly. Baseless.
PLEASE stop defending death cults.
If they kept it to themselves and never expressed it in any way, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But they don’t, and the bible explicitly tells them to spread the cancer.
If they kept it to themselves and never expressed it in any way, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
The people i defend. Which is a majority do keep it for themselves and don’t express it in any way because its personal and wouldn’t apply to anyone else.
the bible explicitly tells them to spread the cancer.
Which is why the people i defend condemn the bible for being human manipulative nonsense.
Including my very much believer in magical angels mother in law who is also most afraid of death (you keep saying she is in a death cult that glorifies death)
I was abused because you won’t take a stand
I have no part in this. Institutional abuse by the church was a systemic evil long before i was born and i am not a defender of it or the church. I am only a defender of the majority of personal religious experiences that do not get expressed outside of intimately personal philosophical context.
I don’t really know, she has never talked about it. i only know because my partner that the concept of death is the most scary thing to her. Not just herself but anyone she loves dying.
I believe she is agnostic to heaven or the idea of humans going there. I don’t even know if she believes in god, but definitely angels (which is according to my partner who she preys towards)
I think there is a Maria statue somewhere on the upper floor, i am not sure where that ties in.
I think the preyer is more of a contemplation, by asking the angels the right questions you get insight into your own thoughts. I compare it to meditation.
I personally meditate when i am overwhelmed, it’s very beneficial. Though it’s hard to turn into a regular habit.
Meditation is swell. The danger is magical thinking. If she prays as sincerely as possible for things to get better, but they get worse, what does she think? That she has done something wrong?
Belief in angels is delusional. She thinks magical beings influence reality instead of taking the time to understand physical cause and effect.
I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. As far as i understand from my partner, she considers the evils of the current age to be very much man made and not something angels can influence. She very much understands cause and effect.
But preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again.
But like i said she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical, which we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense.
Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though, i don’t think she is even capable of hate.
Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think.
I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth.
Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose?
preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again.
Magical thinking.
she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical
Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it’s in the fucking name) believes in magic.
we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense.
How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic?
Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though
On the surface.
i don’t think she is even capable of hate.
You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids.
Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit.
Fuck you for victim blaming. There’s a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused.
Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces?
I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck’s sake.
How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom.
My “hate” is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us.
Hate begans hate.
You mean “begets”. Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface.
And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace.
I am trying to find peace. You won’t let me. You’re saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that.
I am not your enemy.
You are, evidently. You’ve consistently chosen death instead of life.
I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend.
And I’ve been lied to before. Saying things doesn’t make them true. Liars aren’t my friends.
I dont care what people claim that they are good.
But that’s exactly what you’re doing.
I look at their actions.
Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you’re telling me I’m wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now.
It’s why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason.
Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers…
Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I’m still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all.
“I’m against everything nazis stand for, but I still call myself a nazi.”
How do you not see the problem with that? They are not innocent. There is no such thing as christ. There are no true christians. No one should pretend otherwise. They are not good people, they are lethal liars.
I assume you mean “quiet” person.
But here’s the thing: religion affects beliefs. Beliefs drive our actions. Whether or not that shit comes out verbally, it still affects us all.
But I would not be responding if there was no offense in the first place. Too many times, it does not stay quiet. It comes out loud and aggressive.
No, we only need to read the bible they get their beliefs from. It’s an abuser’s handbook. Psychotic. Deadly. Baseless.
PLEASE stop defending death cults.
If they kept it to themselves and never expressed it in any way, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But they don’t, and the bible explicitly tells them to spread the cancer.
I was abused because you won’t take a stand.
The people i defend. Which is a majority do keep it for themselves and don’t express it in any way because its personal and wouldn’t apply to anyone else.
Which is why the people i defend condemn the bible for being human manipulative nonsense.
Including my very much believer in magical angels mother in law who is also most afraid of death (you keep saying she is in a death cult that glorifies death)
Why is she afraid of death? She doesn’t believe in heaven?
Does she pray compulsively for salvation? That’s also not good.
I don’t really know, she has never talked about it. i only know because my partner that the concept of death is the most scary thing to her. Not just herself but anyone she loves dying.
I believe she is agnostic to heaven or the idea of humans going there. I don’t even know if she believes in god, but definitely angels (which is according to my partner who she preys towards)
I think there is a Maria statue somewhere on the upper floor, i am not sure where that ties in.
I think the preyer is more of a contemplation, by asking the angels the right questions you get insight into your own thoughts. I compare it to meditation.
I personally meditate when i am overwhelmed, it’s very beneficial. Though it’s hard to turn into a regular habit.
Meditation is swell. The danger is magical thinking. If she prays as sincerely as possible for things to get better, but they get worse, what does she think? That she has done something wrong?
Belief in angels is delusional. She thinks magical beings influence reality instead of taking the time to understand physical cause and effect.
I don’t know. She really never talks about it.
I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. As far as i understand from my partner, she considers the evils of the current age to be very much man made and not something angels can influence. She very much understands cause and effect.
But preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again.
But like i said she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical, which we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense.
Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though, i don’t think she is even capable of hate.
Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think.
Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose?
Magical thinking.
Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it’s in the fucking name) believes in magic.
How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic?
On the surface.
You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids.
Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit.
You are setting yourself up to become an abuser.
How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom.
Hate begans hate. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace.
I am not your enemy. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend.
I dont care what people claim that they are good. I look at their actions. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers…
Fuck you for victim blaming. There’s a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused.
Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces?
I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck’s sake.
My “hate” is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us.
You mean “begets”. Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface.
I am trying to find peace. You won’t let me. You’re saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that.
You are, evidently. You’ve consistently chosen death instead of life.
And I’ve been lied to before. Saying things doesn’t make them true. Liars aren’t my friends.
But that’s exactly what you’re doing.
Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you’re telling me I’m wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now.
It’s why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason.
Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I’m still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all.
The people i defend criticise and condemn the church and the biblical god. They are still considered christians.
They are not part of a death-cult. You have no proof that they are and citing a text they condemn is not going to do so.
My stand is that they can’t be lumped in with the people that are disillusioned.
The extremist that harmed you are not the people i speak of.
Stop attacking innocent people who are fighting the same fight against the same enemies.
“I’m against everything nazis stand for, but I still call myself a nazi.”
How do you not see the problem with that? They are not innocent. There is no such thing as christ. There are no true christians. No one should pretend otherwise. They are not good people, they are lethal liars.