Is there more context because that’s honestly the most normal thing I’ve seen from him.
If he’s ignoring the kid 24/7 sure, but the kid does need to learn to entertain themselves too. You don’t always have to entertain them. And sometimes kids just want to climb around, you just kinda learn when they actually need someone and when they’re just being a kid.
He sent this to Grimes back when they were fighting publicly a few years back and she claimed he’d kidnapped them or something like that. Anyways, you see the other kid passing by him just out of frame. Nah, it comes off as an irresponsible d-bag when he does it. Considering he doesn’t see them very often as it is and that this was sent ti taunt Grimes cause he hadn’t returned them by the end of his arranged visitations.
Okay, see, the fact this was used to taunt Grimes is important context I didn’t have. I don’t follow him at all, I know nothing about what kids he sees and how often (other than his daughter coming out as trans and him fuming about it).
All I saw was a kid climbing on his dad with no audio or anything else. With the added context this immediately slips into dbag behavior to me as you said.
Not the same kid but some more context about how he views his children
St. Clair first met Twitter owner Elon Musk on X, formerly known as Twitter, in 2023 and began exchanging direct messages with him.[4][3] She gave birth to Musk’s son in 2024.[11] Musk was not on the child’s birth certificate and had been unresponsive to St. Clair’s messages despite previously acknowledging paternity in writing. Musk met their son on September 21, 2024, and spent two hours with him, followed by one hour the next day, then met him again for 30 minutes on November 30, 2024, and continued texting St. Clair thereafter.[4]
Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever.
They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments.
They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day.
But they fucking are. If they keep religion to themselves, that would be fine.
Except they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness, and get more people killed.
The Heritage foundation has religious roots, and are one of the main drivers of conservatism in USA. Trump and company are following their shopping list.
The cuts to USAID will kill an estimated 25 million people, 3.5 times as much as the hollocaust.
JD Vance said if in carrying out Gods commandments leads to the end of the world, then so be it.
they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness
You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others.
While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have.
I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate.
And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession?
I’m not excusing his wanting a child army. I’m not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I’m not excusing any of the other garbage he’s done.
I’m saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You’ve failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative “Christian” parents made. One of the common things they’ve all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they’re busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge.
I’ve spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You’re saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries?
You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy.
I’m saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse.
Because you, like Musk, dehumanized the child. But the child is human. That is my objection.
trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative “Christian” parents made
My south baptist parents think they’re going to heaven for hitting my brothers and me. You really should know better than to pretend neglect is acceptable.
One of the common things they’ve all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they’re busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge.
In the gif, Musk’s child is learning that video games are more important than he is.
You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy.
You really need to stop defending child abuse. I can’t grow up, shitbags like you told people like my parents that abuse is fine actually.
Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you’re now an expert even though you can’t see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I’m done with this.
I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to.
Thank you. Unfortunately, abuse has been normalized, hence the downvotes, yet no compelling counterarguments.
Children can’t advocate for themselves. They need us to push back against the attitudes that lead to their needless suffering. It’s largely thankless work, but very important.
Thanks. It’s incredibly difficult when people like you are still actively enabling it. It’s like being told to heal from a stab wound while the knife is still in.
To the downvoters: my boomer father was not as into video games as Musk. After coming home from work, my father would sit in the recliner and watch sitcoms on TV. Three’s Company. Cheers. MASH. I have clear memories of lying on the carpet in the living room, staying quiet so he could enjoy his shows, because it was some of the only time I could spend with him.
As an adult with the benefit of hindsight, I can confidently assert that I was abused. There was physical abuse, there was mental and emotional abuse, and I was neglected, but in the socially acceptable way where everyone pretends that being a wage slave and choosing to have kids means that a person is entitled to mistreat those kids.
Do better, please. Children deserve better. Thank you.
I’ve seen numerous conversations where you’re the person being down voted and seemingly on the wrong side of things. I sometimes attribute it to you living up to the expectations of your display name.
I may not always agree with you, but today I’ve learned that you’re at least a person that is able to be reasoned with.
Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers.
Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit.
If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you’ve shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist.
Is there more context because that’s honestly the most normal thing I’ve seen from him.
If he’s ignoring the kid 24/7 sure, but the kid does need to learn to entertain themselves too. You don’t always have to entertain them. And sometimes kids just want to climb around, you just kinda learn when they actually need someone and when they’re just being a kid.
He sent this to Grimes back when they were fighting publicly a few years back and she claimed he’d kidnapped them or something like that. Anyways, you see the other kid passing by him just out of frame. Nah, it comes off as an irresponsible d-bag when he does it. Considering he doesn’t see them very often as it is and that this was sent ti taunt Grimes cause he hadn’t returned them by the end of his arranged visitations.
Okay, see, the fact this was used to taunt Grimes is important context I didn’t have. I don’t follow him at all, I know nothing about what kids he sees and how often (other than his daughter coming out as trans and him fuming about it).
All I saw was a kid climbing on his dad with no audio or anything else. With the added context this immediately slips into dbag behavior to me as you said.
Musk was emailing Epstein on Christmas morning. 14 kids and that’s what hes doing on Christmas.
Not the same kid but some more context about how he views his children
Fuck you for normalizing child abuse.
Very mature and educational response. Really shows me I know nothing.
Or… Just spitballing, maybe your response was actually immature and misguided?
I genuinely hope you’re okay and get a hug today.
Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever.
They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments.
They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day.
Yeah… I figured that out a couple comments in. I don’t let people on Internet ruin my day thankfully. Thanks for the heads up though
Weird how you’re still defending deadly lies instead of the victims. Stop tolerating death cults.
But they fucking are. If they keep religion to themselves, that would be fine.
Except they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness, and get more people killed.
The Heritage foundation has religious roots, and are one of the main drivers of conservatism in USA. Trump and company are following their shopping list.
The cuts to USAID will kill an estimated 25 million people, 3.5 times as much as the hollocaust.
JD Vance said if in carrying out Gods commandments leads to the end of the world, then so be it.
75% of all people… all painted with the same Brush off hate.
This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion
You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others.
While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have.
I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate.
They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don’t care who it hurts.
I’m not forcing anyone to lie. I’m just observing.
Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults.
We’re all better without superstition.
You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn’t, and people are dying for it.
We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible.
You really talk a lot like a dangerous religious cultist.
Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don’t think so, you’re not paying attention
Oops, you forgot the crucial difference again: Evidence.
Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US.
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Children are people. Not possessions. Not pets. Fuck you for enabling abuse.
And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession?
I’m not excusing his wanting a child army. I’m not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I’m not excusing any of the other garbage he’s done.
I’m saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You’ve failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative “Christian” parents made. One of the common things they’ve all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they’re busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge.
I’ve spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You’re saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries?
You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy.
Because you, like Musk, dehumanized the child. But the child is human. That is my objection.
My south baptist parents think they’re going to heaven for hitting my brothers and me. You really should know better than to pretend neglect is acceptable.
In the gif, Musk’s child is learning that video games are more important than he is.
You really need to stop defending child abuse. I can’t grow up, shitbags like you told people like my parents that abuse is fine actually.
Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you’re now an expert even though you can’t see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I’m done with this.
I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to.
Snoop isn’t wrong. Either you don’t know how to think critically or your being disingenuously ignorant.
Thank you. Unfortunately, abuse has been normalized, hence the downvotes, yet no compelling counterarguments.
Children can’t advocate for themselves. They need us to push back against the attitudes that lead to their needless suffering. It’s largely thankless work, but very important.
Thanks. It’s incredibly difficult when people like you are still actively enabling it. It’s like being told to heal from a stab wound while the knife is still in.
To the downvoters: my boomer father was not as into video games as Musk. After coming home from work, my father would sit in the recliner and watch sitcoms on TV. Three’s Company. Cheers. MASH. I have clear memories of lying on the carpet in the living room, staying quiet so he could enjoy his shows, because it was some of the only time I could spend with him.
As an adult with the benefit of hindsight, I can confidently assert that I was abused. There was physical abuse, there was mental and emotional abuse, and I was neglected, but in the socially acceptable way where everyone pretends that being a wage slave and choosing to have kids means that a person is entitled to mistreat those kids.
Do better, please. Children deserve better. Thank you.
Get some help, seriously.
Wow… This says a lot coming from you.
I’ve seen numerous conversations where you’re the person being down voted and seemingly on the wrong side of things. I sometimes attribute it to you living up to the expectations of your display name.
I may not always agree with you, but today I’ve learned that you’re at least a person that is able to be reasoned with.
Nice to know that I am known for being wrong on Lemmy 😣
But I got my hands on Concerta, and would rather be the next Unidan someday.
Defending child abuse is not reasonable.
The only reason I need help in the first place is because shitbags like you keep blaming the victims and normalizing child abuse.
I have therapy tomorrow. It doesn’t change what my parents did.
Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit.
If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you’ve shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist.