I was in the non-profit shop of a local charity. They accept donations of used computers then resell them to the public. The profit goes to charity. I asked for their oldest machine. It had an AMD chip from the 16h family. Thus, a spychip.
So their oldest machine was still too new for me. I asked why don’t you have anything older? They said the general public would not accept anything older, and so the shop also does not accept anything older. When machines are rejected, they go to a factory that destroys them and recovers the raw metals.
It’s sad to see that pre-spychip machines are being destroyed and that even 2nd-hand customers are being limited to anti-consumer spychip hardware.


I see your point, but you’re being such a dick in this thread that I’m kind of happy you didn’t get what you wanted and I kind of hope you never do.
I scrolled for a bit and, welp.
Imagine being like that without understanding that you’re the one lacking essential behaviors for pleasant human interaction.
It’s not about me. I already found a pre-spychip laptop at a street market for under $£€ 10. It’s about global e-waste of useful goods and the ignorance driving it. Ignorance that is thick as we can see from an absence of basic infosec principles and people being conditioned to lick boots without questioning the ethics of patronising anti-consumer suppliers.
Ignorance is not in itself a big problem. It can be corrected if someone is willing to learn. And I can accept arrogance if it’s logically sound and factually correct. But ignorance coupled with pretentious arrogance is a bit intolerable. I don’t give a shit about the egos of such thread crapping responders.
The irony of you of all people calling this out…