• thermal_shock@lemmy.world
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    Leviticus 19:33 and many others say the exact same thing.

    Leviticus 19:33 commands, "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them.

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      Everyone knows modern Christians only care about the portions of Leviticus that confirm their hatred for gay people.

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      Okay, but

      Consider the work of Old Testament scholar James K. Hoffmeier, which has been embraced by the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization devoted to reducing immigration across the board.

      In Hoffmeier’s view, the duty to not oppress “strangers” (“ger”) found in Leviticus 19:33 does not apply unless a person already has gained legal approval to be within a nation’s borders. That “legal status” had to be obtained “from the appropriate authority in that particular culture” or else he or she remained a “foreigner” (“nekhar” or “zar”).

      The problem with Biblical (and Rabbinical) scholarship is that people argue over this shit extensively and ad nauseum. Hell, the Talmud is just an extended historical account of these arguments (often highly pedantic and endlessly nuanced, turning on interpretations of definitions of terms used in historical observations).

      You can come at a modern policy argument waving the Bible and find a dozen other people from every side of the debate doing the same.

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            yea, everyone who practices starts at where they are, and forces christianity to conform to their wants. its how we get supply side jesus.

            this “jesus said to love thy neighbor REALLY means only the ones who are permitted to be there by the majorities ethnic cleansing. but i don’t bother checking, and just assume that the only ones that count as my neighbors are the same as me “ is frankly blasphemous. not that i care as i don’t practice. but i feel that if jesus died for our sins, its bad taste to use him as a sacrificial lamb to protect the feelings of bigots, and nazis. if people want to be bigots and nazis they should just say so and stop using jesus as a shield.

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        I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

        Legal or not, treat people with decency. I was going to look up jeff sessions, but your link says it all. Use the Bible, twist words if you have to, to hurt your neighbor.

        Let’s sow hatred then act all surprised Pikachu when we get fucking wrecked. Of course Trump’s dumb ass is involved.

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          Legal or not, treat people with decency.

          Probably the most controversial suggestion within Christendom, going back to its Jewish roots. Do you treat people with dignity if they aren’t a part of your clan? The various religious texts could not be more at odds with one another on this issue.

          Let’s sow hatred then act all surprised Pikachu when we get fucking wrecked.

          Internecine conflict has been a primary lever of social control since the earliest civilizations formed.

          It goes down the same as the thousand before

          No one’s getting smarter, no one’s learning the score

          Your never ending spree of death and violence and hate

          Is gonna tie your own rope, tie your own rope, tie your own

          ~ The Offspring, Come Out and Play

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      The illegal immigrant appears to face one of two options: work in slave like conditions for below minimum wage, or get deported.

      Truth be told, I think the ice roundup is merely a spectacle. US business loves underpaid illegal immigrants with no healthcare. The US government loves it too because it reduces costs for whole industries, making everybody else somewhat better off. I do not believe the US will ever substantially reduce their use of illegal labor.

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        The goal now is to inflict pain. That’s it. Cause issues with avg people, citizen or not, and expand the hatred for Trump’s base. It’s all a performance distraction while we’re being robbed blind. None of this is necessary at all.

        We have a demented president who loves attention and can’t tell the difference between it being good or bad with so many yes men around him.

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        merely a spectacle

        While I partly agree with you, this is more than a spectacle. Any sufficiently fascist politician needs a scapegoat, a group of “others” to focus hate and outrage. Immigrant are an easy target

        On the opposite side, since they are clearly hypocrite, I can’t believe there hasn’t been more outrage over trumps attempt to raise fees for H1-Bs. For MAGAts, it’s a win-win. Either it cuts way back on companies willing to sponsor work visas or it provides the executive branch a new income stream where it thinks it doesn’t need Congress, like tariffs (don’t get me wrong, work visas probably ought to be tightened, but come on)