• reparæi [he/any]@lemmy.ml
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    Are we shifting the blame from corporations and governments onto individual people?

    I don’t think quality of human life needed or even still needs to decrese that nuch to deal with climate change, it itself is wholly unnecessary political problem and could have been prevented altogether if we prioritised people instead of pure profits, certainly with a far higher quality of life too.

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      Not disagreeing with you in whole because most pollution is done by corporations, but there are a few things done largely by individuals. I’m mostly thinking of a demand for meat and car tires being the largest source of microplastics. Other than those two things, in my opinion, there isn’t a lot that individuals contribute to pollution.

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        Cars are a very good example of how it is beyond individual control or choice, it is not we who choose to born into a city made by urban planners lobbied for by automobile corporations attempting to turn cities into concrete hells whwre it as painful as possible to sustain oneself without a car for whatever purpose or distance, cities that properly implement city planning and public transport naturally make people select those superior options.

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    If you really want to upset people, tell them becoming a vegetarian is one of the most effective ways to reduce your contribution to climate change.

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    “it would be more expensive!”

    “The real costs are externalized. Someone pays for the pollution now, it’s just not on the receipt”

    “…”

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      Mostly it’s us in the future paying for it. The big costs have yet to hit. What we’ve got now in terms of storms and crop failure is mid.

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    I agree that people should be willing to change their lifestyle to reduce pollution…

    That being said, you actually can get pretty far in improving pollution without changing people’s lifestyles.

    Of course, I understand the comic says, “ban”, which would obviously be impossible without consequences for their lifestyle. For example, you could only ban releasing CO2 into the atmosphere by stopping people from breathing into the atmosphere. Quite a lifestyle shift.

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      Banning leaded gas requires pretty big changes to both cars engines and the gasoline mix, and that drove up prices.

      It was a good move, but let’s not pretend it was free. Lead was added for a reason, removing it had a cost as well, even though that was more than worth ut.

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        Lead was added because it made exxon’s shareholders a shitton of money because they could make the same profit while spending less on oil refining infrastructure and gm didn’t have to invest in better valve/head manufacturing.

        The price of gas and engines are set as high as the market is able to bear. The public did not benefit from cheaper engines or cheaper gasoline, only exxon and their shareholders, who used that wealth to further stall progress, nor do products become cheaper when the manufacturer switches to from biodegradable wax paper to single-use polyurethane-coated plastic.