This is pretty par for the course for this crowd. “Childfree” spaces are like, Reddit atheists in that while they have a perfectly valid position, they also have a lot of insufferable, smug hyperbole.
It’s like incel circles - initially it can be a positive community where you’re finding solidarity with others in similar positions. And then, since you’re finding commonality with a shared hatred of a group of people, the posts and ideas being shared devolve into some seriously unhealthy assertions.
Like children should be murdered if they aren’t being quiet in a public place.
since you’re finding commonality with a shared hatred of a group of people
Uh, first of all, that doesn’t sound like a positive community.
Also, I don’t think people here represent themselves as hating a group of people. Even the meme posted (ignoring Casey Anthony) is about hating the situation or behaviour, not hating people for belonging to a group.
Positive for the person participating, not necessarily positive in general. Obviously.
I’ve never come across a childfree community online and have it not revolve around hating children and parents (or “breeders” as I’ve seen this place use).
Childfree individuals on the other hand, not a problem at all and I fully support everyone’s right to choose what’s best for them. Super supportive of that.
I was making observations of the childfree groups I’ve had experience with before.
Their post history is public, it’s more of the same crap over and over, if you checked it, you would see that’s an absolute lie.
Ignore the red flags and think this is a joke if you want.
But out of curiosity, what’s funny about joking about abusing and murdering children? How would this be taken if it was a picture of a gas chamber or other atrocity instead? What’s your interpretation for finding this “funny”?
I looked at their comments in this post (of which there are plenty), I’m not going trawling through their history. They say they didn’t know who it was, I also didn’t know who it was.
The expression matches the caption really well, when I realised who it was (my wife let me know after I sent it to her) I definitely had an oof moment.
It’s not a joke I’d have made intentionally, but the willful misinterpreting and embellishing of OP and others in here is crazy. Of course parents are responsible for their screaming kids, and of course they should remove them from situations where they are being disruptive where practical.
Yeah glorifying a woman who brutally murdered her daughter and got away with it is pretty far over the line, but I don’t think the terminally online childfree care too much about being seen as advocating for literal child murder if this group is at all similar to those on Reddit.
honestly I doubt most people even recognized who this is. It has been 15 years since she was on the news, and not everyone pays attention to that shit.
A “pedestal”? Come on, be serious. It’s a meme of a person glaring at someone.
I knew she looked familiar, but couldn’t place where. I’d wager most people don’t even remember the case, let alone what she looks like. If I sent her picture to 20 people, maybe half of them have heard of her, 5 people might know that’s her.
Dude if I post a meme about pinochet, adoplh shitler or suharto on a misantrhopy forum with my joke being ‘iF yOu WaNt ThErE To Be LeSs HuManS!? I HavE JuSt thE MaN fOr THe jOb!!1?1?1?111¿’ do you think the people on that there forum would laugh in unison with me or ask me to leave forever?
That is exactly what this meme is doing.
Being childfree doesnt mean ‘Give a pass to ALLL humans who shown cruelty to children’ instead it means ‘Give a pass to ALL humans who choose to live a peaceful lifestyle where they choose to exclude themselves from things involving children.’ …Thats it
Same can be said for things related to misanthropy . Misanthropy doesnt mean ‘Super-Individualistic-Turbo-Genocidal Hatred Of All Humans!!!1!1!¿ Give a pass to ALL HUMANS who have done cruel things to reduce the human population !1!1!32¿¡’ instead it means ‘Give a pass to ALL HUMANS who have peacefully chosen to exclude themselves from other activities involving other humans.’ …Thats it.
We shall neveer give a pass to a hellish demon like casey anthony who will probably become a serial k1ller
I’m sorry, lemmy.world won’t believe that I am a human and show me your content. But the post we are presently on is obviously ironic. No one is seriously suggesting murdering loud children. The fact that you are making me say that out loud is very concerning.
What part about their comments here and their post history is joking?
No one is seriously suggesting murdering loud children.
Uhh… Op literally is and has they provided the source, and their post history is full of it. How far up your ass is your head? How many times does someone need to say “I’m a Nazi” before it’s not “a joke” anymore? What’s the number?
the person you’re replying to is notorious for constructing ethical frameworks out of thin air then using loaded language and blame/shame tactics to high road any interlocutors who disagrees or adds nuance. theyre actually pretty good at boxing people into corners by steel manning exaggerated versions of their position then knocking them down with pearl clutching tactics. something along the lines of, "I can’t believe you laughed a joke about<insert issue>! Don’t you know laughing or thinking about a bad thing is morally equivalent to doing the actual thing?!"
they’re otherwise actually pretty based in their views and make valid points but come off as antagonistic and self-serious to the point of discouraging others from engaging in conversation where people are allowed to grow and evolve their opinions.
fyi you are not “the person” I was referring to at all earlier. regardless, I won’t pretend that policing which types of jokes are allowed on the internet (a joke clearly intended as rage bait which you fell for, btw) somehow places you on a pedestal above others.
maybe for you, this is “real life” but for me this is a shit post comment section. this isn’t the salon or academy or public tribunal. it’s not an essay prompt asking you to stake a moral position on a controversial topic. no one is actually being harmed here.
the meme is OBVIOUS engagement bait to get people like yourself riled up over literally nothing. a meme by an edgelord. that you just REACTED in the most knee jerk way to, by claiming moral high ground about an unserious hypothetical scenario.
the worst part of this interaction honestly, is that posts like this divide and push otherwise similar minded people into “take a side or be condemned” type of thinking. i never once commented on the content of the meme but I did fall for the bait of engaging/warning others not to engage with certain posters.
Okay. I accept there was a reason. I propose that reason was humour. It’s a huge leap to say that reason was that people want to literally murder loud children. I’m sorry but you’re being fucking stupid right now. If this is how your mind actually works, you’re struggling with something big.
aye almost every single american and european president since wwii is guilty of one crime against humanity and not a single one of them has been placed on trial or convicted…why do you think this is?
oj simpson was also clearly guilty as fuckbut he was acquitted…why do you think that is?
We literally have video evidence of p-diddy likely committing unconcensual DV and he wasnt placed on trial for it or convicted…why do you think that is?
All because you got away with committing a crime does that magically now mean you didnt commit it?
Does no one else recognize that this is Casey Anthony?
Y’all are really comparing yourselves to Casey Anthony?
This is pretty par for the course for this crowd. “Childfree” spaces are like, Reddit atheists in that while they have a perfectly valid position, they also have a lot of insufferable, smug hyperbole.
Yeah, it’s hard bc a lot of people come in here that are psychotically anti-child.
I like dark humor but this is a space for us to celebrate happiness and breaking away from societal (read:breeder) expectations.
It’s like incel circles - initially it can be a positive community where you’re finding solidarity with others in similar positions. And then, since you’re finding commonality with a shared hatred of a group of people, the posts and ideas being shared devolve into some seriously unhealthy assertions.
Like children should be murdered if they aren’t being quiet in a public place.
Uh, first of all, that doesn’t sound like a positive community.
Also, I don’t think people here represent themselves as hating a group of people. Even the meme posted (ignoring Casey Anthony) is about hating the situation or behaviour, not hating people for belonging to a group.
Positive for the person participating, not necessarily positive in general. Obviously.
I’ve never come across a childfree community online and have it not revolve around hating children and parents (or “breeders” as I’ve seen this place use).
Childfree individuals on the other hand, not a problem at all and I fully support everyone’s right to choose what’s best for them. Super supportive of that.
I was making observations of the childfree groups I’ve had experience with before.
Uhh… pay better attention dude.
The OP is literally advocating and wanting that for being disturbed in public places that allow kids.
You’re choosing to interpret their words from that one comment that way. The rest of their comments don’t support your interpretation.
Their post history is public, it’s more of the same crap over and over, if you checked it, you would see that’s an absolute lie.
Ignore the red flags and think this is a joke if you want.
But out of curiosity, what’s funny about joking about abusing and murdering children? How would this be taken if it was a picture of a gas chamber or other atrocity instead? What’s your interpretation for finding this “funny”?
I looked at their comments in this post (of which there are plenty), I’m not going trawling through their history. They say they didn’t know who it was, I also didn’t know who it was.
The expression matches the caption really well, when I realised who it was (my wife let me know after I sent it to her) I definitely had an oof moment.
It’s not a joke I’d have made intentionally, but the willful misinterpreting and embellishing of OP and others in here is crazy. Of course parents are responsible for their screaming kids, and of course they should remove them from situations where they are being disruptive where practical.
Yeah glorifying a woman who brutally murdered her daughter and got away with it is pretty far over the line, but I don’t think the terminally online childfree care too much about being seen as advocating for literal child murder if this group is at all similar to those on Reddit.
You are mass posting, using loaded language, making untrue claims of “glorification” and the like… Honestly, now, are you okay?
I’m replying to people’s comments? You’ve got 5 comments in here now, are you mass posting?
CAUGHT Them In 4K!
It would actually make a lot more sense if you had a sense of humor
What’s funny about joking about abusing and murdering children?
there is NOTHING funny about willingly carryng around a baby, giving birth to that same baby then burning thebaby death.
Or the glorofication of such a person
I suppose you are entitled to your opinion
it’s just user destructdisc who has been flooding this community with instagram garbage for the last few months.
No one else was pointing out that child murderer Casey Anthony was being put on a pedestal here.
honestly I doubt most people even recognized who this is. It has been 15 years since she was on the news, and not everyone pays attention to that shit.
It comes up when talking about silencing loud children, I guess.
A “pedestal”? Come on, be serious. It’s a meme of a person glaring at someone.
I knew she looked familiar, but couldn’t place where. I’d wager most people don’t even remember the case, let alone what she looks like. If I sent her picture to 20 people, maybe half of them have heard of her, 5 people might know that’s her.
Why do you think she was picked for the meme?
She’s a notorious child killer. That’s the point of the meme.
Downplaying this and believing that others are as ignorant as you is not the play.
we’re not downplaying anything.
Dude if I post a meme about pinochet, adoplh shitler or suharto on a misantrhopy forum with my joke being ‘iF yOu WaNt ThErE To Be LeSs HuManS!? I HavE JuSt thE MaN fOr THe jOb!!1?1?1?111¿’ do you think the people on that there forum would laugh in unison with me or ask me to leave forever?
That is exactly what this meme is doing.
Being childfree doesnt mean ‘Give a pass to ALLL humans who shown cruelty to children’ instead it means ‘Give a pass to ALL humans who choose to live a peaceful lifestyle where they choose to exclude themselves from things involving children.’ …Thats it
Same can be said for things related to misanthropy . Misanthropy doesnt mean ‘Super-Individualistic-Turbo-Genocidal Hatred Of All Humans!!!1!1!¿ Give a pass to ALL HUMANS who have done cruel things to reduce the human population !1!1!32¿¡’ instead it means ‘Give a pass to ALL HUMANS who have peacefully chosen to exclude themselves from other activities involving other humans.’ …Thats it.
We shall neveer give a pass to a hellish demon like casey anthony who will probably become a serial k1ller
“put on a pedestal” is hyperbolic to be generous.
Literally highlighting her crimes to use as an ideal way of taking care of loud children, but ok.
How have you never encountered the concept of irony. You can’t actually be this obtuse. You’re faking it for some rhetorical point, right?
No, OP is literally that unhinged.
And you wanting to continue to sit here defending this crap? I knew you weren’t worth my time when you tried making a scene in the other thread.
I’m sorry, lemmy.world won’t believe that I am a human and show me your content. But the post we are presently on is obviously ironic. No one is seriously suggesting murdering loud children. The fact that you are making me say that out loud is very concerning.
I’m sorry, I don’t remember you.
What part about their comments here and their post history is joking?
Uhh… Op literally is and has they provided the source, and their post history is full of it. How far up your ass is your head? How many times does someone need to say “I’m a Nazi” before it’s not “a joke” anymore? What’s the number?
Or are they one of your many alts?
the person you’re replying to is notorious for constructing ethical frameworks out of thin air then using loaded language and blame/shame tactics to high road any interlocutors who disagrees or adds nuance. theyre actually pretty good at boxing people into corners by steel manning exaggerated versions of their position then knocking them down with pearl clutching tactics. something along the lines of, "I can’t believe you laughed a joke about<insert issue>! Don’t you know laughing or thinking about a bad thing is morally equivalent to doing the actual thing?!"
they’re otherwise actually pretty based in their views and make valid points but come off as antagonistic and self-serious to the point of discouraging others from engaging in conversation where people are allowed to grow and evolve their opinions.
best to tag and move on.
You sure you want to defend someone advocating for murdering loud children?
They clearly weren’t joking when they posted this, but atleast now it should be clear and you’ll adjust your comment here yeah?
There’s times when you need to be able to think for yourself and notice that it’s not a dark joke and is maybe a cry for help.
And than there’s always people who defend them as well… peas in a pod I guess.
fyi you are not “the person” I was referring to at all earlier. regardless, I won’t pretend that policing which types of jokes are allowed on the internet (a joke clearly intended as rage bait which you fell for, btw) somehow places you on a pedestal above others.
maybe for you, this is “real life” but for me this is a shit post comment section. this isn’t the salon or academy or public tribunal. it’s not an essay prompt asking you to stake a moral position on a controversial topic. no one is actually being harmed here.
the meme is OBVIOUS engagement bait to get people like yourself riled up over literally nothing. a meme by an edgelord. that you just REACTED in the most knee jerk way to, by claiming moral high ground about an unserious hypothetical scenario.
the worst part of this interaction honestly, is that posts like this divide and push otherwise similar minded people into “take a side or be condemned” type of thinking. i never once commented on the content of the meme but I did fall for the bait of engaging/warning others not to engage with certain posters.
qed, much ado about nothing.
There’s a reason Casey Anthony was used for this meme and you’re being deliberately obtuse by ignoring that reason.
Okay. I accept there was a reason. I propose that reason was humour. It’s a huge leap to say that reason was that people want to literally murder loud children. I’m sorry but you’re being fucking stupid right now. If this is how your mind actually works, you’re struggling with something big.
yeah it’s humor in really poor taste. Not sure why it was so difficult for you to wrap your head around that.
Yeah. The reason is that it’s hilarious.
She was acquitted? What’s the problem?
So was OJ?
aye almost every single american and european president since wwii is guilty of one crime against humanity and not a single one of them has been placed on trial or convicted…why do you think this is?
oj simpson was also clearly guilty as fuckbut he was acquitted…why do you think that is?
We literally have video evidence of p-diddy likely committing unconcensual DV and he wasnt placed on trial for it or convicted…why do you think that is?
All because you got away with committing a crime does that magically now mean you didnt commit it?
I’m sorry I don’t speak fluent conspiracy theorist you’ll have to be more clear with your point.
so NOT k1lling kids is a conspiracy? … wooooow…