So yeah, antifascism is now terrorism according to the US gov.
Their website and mailing server has been taken down in Europe, too now.
Are they still willing to kiss his ass, or does the USA have the power to do that globally?

Only yesterday most DNS services allowed it (OpenNIC, NextDNS, and the big ones).
Now they all return this:

whois autistici.org  (edited)  
Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net/  
Registrar: Gandi SAS  
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net  
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661  
Domain Status: serverHold https://icann.org/epp#serverHold  
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited  
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited  
Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited  
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/  

Check out these links, it’s bad:

serverHold https://icann.org/epp#serverHold
clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited

One can log a complaint here but all the form links resolve to my.site.com. Which is invalid.

Question

Where (in Europe or globally) can I log a complaint resp. protest?


What is autistici.org

It’s the Italian volunteer technology collective Autistici/Inventati. Has been around for decades.

There’s been some reports on the fediverse during the past days, and personally I’ve been using them for years. Among other things they provide free email accounts for people who ask.
https://piefed.zip/c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/p/1770717/trump-admininistration-has-designated-the-italian-pro-privacy-and-anticapitalist-collectiv
https://piefed.zip/c/technology@piefed.social/p/1767731/united-states-sanctions-autistici-inventati-for-supporting-far-left-terrorism
https://piefed.zip/c/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se/p/1773823/autistici-inventati-s-main-org-domain-goes-dark-after-us-terrorism-designation

And of course their own blog post about it:
https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076


edit1:
Since their registrar is Gandi, I think it makes sense to log a complaint with them even if they aren’t ultimately responsible:
abuse@support.gandi.net
https://helpdesk.gandi.net/hc/en-us/requests/new

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        14 hours ago

        OpenNIC also blocks autistici.org.

        Yeah, it’s bad.

        I was told these services get lists from ICANN without checking them. Although the wikipedia article suggests OpenNIC has its own, different root?

        I do hope manual intervention is possble, otherwise Trump has the whole WWW by the balls.

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          OpenNIC also blocks autistici.org.

          Yeah, it’s bad.

          Hmmm then they are not as independent as one would think of them. Do we know who is funding opennic?

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            I was lurking in their IRC yesterday, their stance seems to be that they will never override an existing record, but there was some discussion about possibly overriding an NXDOMAIN. The main issue is DNSSEC - with it, negative answers are authoritative and signed, so they’d need to stop supporting DNSSEC altogether to restore the record. In general, they mirror “standard” TLD zones 1:1 from the root servers, their “libre” and “censor-free” mostly seems to apply to their own TLDs that are only available on OpenNIC.

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            20:17 ohnonot: Some of you may be aware that some domains are being blocked because USA pressure. The reasoning is, of course, "AntiFa terrorism".
            20:18  One of these domains is autistici.org.
            20:18  But shouldn't I be able to reach it with OpenNIC? I am currently using one of your nameservers.
            20:23 ohnonot: Because I cannot.
            20:31 phschafft: there has been some dicussion about it so far.
            20:31  I would assume, if it's gone from the parent zone (here the TLD), it's gone. end of story.
            20:47 ohnonot: Thanks. I just read that OpenNIC is an "alternative DNS root" but apparently it still gets the list from somewhere - ICANN or whoever takes care of the TLD, and once the IP/name connection is lost, it's lost?
            20:48  Could not such sites request to be included in OpenNICs lists, and f*** the USA-based "parents"?
            20:49  BYW where can I follow OpenNIC's discussion?
            21:04 phschafft: there is a mailing list.
            21:05  ohnonot: it's not that simple. starting with the fact that once a zone is signed it's not possible to just edit it however you like.
            21:06  this is a very much more complicated topic than most people realise.
            21:08 Shdwdrgn: Just waking up here, but I wanted to point out that Openinic's root zone pretty much just points all the ICANN tld's directly to the official providers.  So if an .org domain gets blocked, I cannot edit the direct response.
            21:09  There IS a possible way around it... Any dns server can add their own manual entry for a domain to point back to the original dns servers of that domain
            21:10  There was some heated discussion here years ago when the US similarly censored some other domains.  I brought up this idea at the time and a lot of people were strongly against it because then opennic no longer faithfully resolved the ICANN domains exactly as the rest of the internet saw them
            21:34 EMREOYUN: Following up after Shdwdrgn, this is why there are proxy websites, for example, the website that lists torrents. You can't simply change everyone's DNS'es but you can always register a new domain
            21:35  Also supporting whytek, DNS is decentralized by design but it is extremely centralized in terms of politics & power
            21:37  But I didn't expect Italy to do something like this. I know it is nowhere close to our country in terms of magnitute of cencorship but still
            
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          Yeah because they refer to the same ICANN root servers for the ICANN root domains. The point of an alternative DNS root is that they can provide their own specific top-level domains, so sites that are targeted by this kind of censorship can register a domain in an OpenNIC managed TLD and then they are only subject to moderation by OpenNIC instead of ICANN.

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    19 hours ago

    So how do you get to their website without DNS? Does anyone remember the IP? Do they have a .onion URL?

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      Don’t remember neither numerical IP nor .onion. Would be good to know.

      But neither would help very much because I cannot use my (secondary) mail account anymore. This has been very useful in the past - well, over 10 years.

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    So yeah, antifascism is now terrorism according to the US gov.

    I think if you dig a little deeper you will find the issue is not quite so black-and-white.

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      being placed on the terrorist organizations list along daesh and alqaeda looks pretty black and white to me. There should be a wide spectrum including “organization whose activities/(h)activism/humanitarian support indirectly happens to help terrorist group, along lots of other causes”.

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        The government is not treating any and all representations of “antifascism” as terrorism now, they are targeting this one single website because there is evidence that they knowingly provide services to some existing groups that were already deemed terrorists.

        If there’s any debate about whether or not those groups should have been deemed terrorists in the first place, that’s a different issue altogether as far as enforcing the law is concerned.