• The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 days ago

    Oh yeah, I remember seeing videos of world cup travelers being amazed by that this summer. I didn’t realize it wasn’t a normal thing!

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      2 days ago

      It’s slightly offset by the increased energy costs, as the fridge is way less efficient

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        The fridge is less efficient when there is an ice maker? How? It sounds like you’re basically saying the freezer is always going to be less efficient when there’s something to freeze.

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          An ice maker is more complex than just manually freezing ice in a tray. You have a bunch of small motors and pumps and things that require more electricity to function, and all of that energy is on top of the energy it takes to cool the freezer (which a non ice maker refrigerator is already doing). Plus, all those things that are inside the freezer space are now generating or adding heat in the space youre using energy to cool, especially the water it’s continuously freezing to make ice whenever it isnt full.

          A report from 2020 said that automatic ice maker refrigerators use 14-20% more energy than a normal refrigerator

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            Did the study take into account opening the door multiple times to get the ice tray in and out vs the tiny hole in the door only being open while ice is flowing?

            Also why would there be any pumps? Faucets don’t have pumps and neither does any fridge I have ever had.

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              Most ice machines have a water pump. I suppose you could make one that just used a water supply pressure and valves but I’ve never seen that on commercial ice machines

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                We aren’t talking about commercial ice machines though, we are talking about the ones inside the freezer of domestic refrigerators. All of those that I have seen just use tap pressure for the ice machine and the door dispenser.

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          It’s the need for a thoroughfare through the insulation that makes it less efficient.