Take a look at this. A Tesla Robotaxi in Austin pauses, seems to reconsider a right-hand turn through some bollards, and then decides: I’m just gonna send it. Tesla Robotaxi Rams through several Bollards and keeps going. by u/bladerskb in SelfDrivingCars “You Can’t Go This Way! Don’t Do That! Holy Cow!” The vehicle is operating […]
I mean, I guess “impeccable safety record” is in the eye of the beholder?
So there’s a long way for FSD to match a competent driver.
“Competent driver” is a higher bar than is strictly necessary to make the roads safer. That was my point. It’s easy to read a story about a self driving car getting confused at some traffic pattern, but that happens all the time for humans, too.
So Tesla is definitely not anywhere near “better than a human”.
I don’t know how to quantify “not anywhere near” but I agree the industry isn’t there yet, and there are some pretty significant challenges to figure out, like inclement weather.
Tesla isn’t the only company trying to crack this; don’t let Musk being a terrible person blind you to the fact that very smart people are working on this.
This was about a robotaxi, this is Tesla specifically.
There are no other vendors that are equally irresponsible.
I’m not arguing whether Tesla is ahead or behind, I’m only arguing that Tesla is acting with a level of irresponsibility that should have had them fined and controlled on these issues long ago.
I have no doubt that eventually the technology will be good enough, but it’s 10 years ago that Musk claimed FSD would be ready next year, and be safer than human drivers, and be able to pick you up and drive you across country, completely without human intervention.
Musk is a liar, I never made that claim about the other companies working on it. But the “good people” at Tesla are still acting irresponsibly, and putting people’s lives in danger for profit.
“Competent driver” is a higher bar than is strictly necessary to make the roads safer. That was my point. It’s easy to read a story about a self driving car getting confused at some traffic pattern, but that happens all the time for humans, too.
I don’t know how to quantify “not anywhere near” but I agree the industry isn’t there yet, and there are some pretty significant challenges to figure out, like inclement weather.
Tesla isn’t the only company trying to crack this; don’t let Musk being a terrible person blind you to the fact that very smart people are working on this.
This was about a robotaxi, this is Tesla specifically.
There are no other vendors that are equally irresponsible.
I’m not arguing whether Tesla is ahead or behind, I’m only arguing that Tesla is acting with a level of irresponsibility that should have had them fined and controlled on these issues long ago.
I have no doubt that eventually the technology will be good enough, but it’s 10 years ago that Musk claimed FSD would be ready next year, and be safer than human drivers, and be able to pick you up and drive you across country, completely without human intervention.
Musk is a liar, I never made that claim about the other companies working on it. But the “good people” at Tesla are still acting irresponsibly, and putting people’s lives in danger for profit.
You’ll get no disagreement from me that Musk/Tesla is being irresponsible by over stating the capabilities of their vehicles.
But I don’t find it interesting to discus Musk and his many character flaws; I was always speaking more generally about the technology itself.
In general the technology is fine, it’s all about implementation, and the way Tesla is implementing it is irresponsible and should be illegal.