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    It’s genuinely hard for me to comprehend how fucked in the head you have to be to not only be smiling as you kidnap a child, but to then post evidence of it yourself as though it’s something to be proud of. Like it’s one thing for politicians or assholes online who are several steps removed from these atrocities to confidently spew hate online like it’s normal. How does a person not only witness this, but do it with their own two hands and have THIS reaction?

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      And heads up, zionists dont see americans or christians as any more human than they see palestinians.

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      The whole Israeli society is so rotten to the core, I don’t know if its even possible to rehabilitate them without mass reeducation campaigns that no country is going to take responsibility for.

      This ends well for no one

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      But they are several steps removed from reality. They are so brainwashed that they think it’s okay, that normal people cheer them on, and that it’s only bad people who would see anything wrong with this.

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      It begins with regarding other people (be them a different skin colour, culture, or faith) as a problem. Then the roadmap to regard them as less than worthy as Humans is well on its way. Once you’ve established them as lesser and unworthy, committing atrocities on them is very easy.

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        @Tattorack @darthelmet I don’t think it’s ever easy even then to commit atrocities. I think it takes a special kind of degenerate people, in a degenerate environment, to become sadistic women and children murderers that also burn crops, poison wells, kill animals, enforce famine and deny relief to those they deliberately wound and maim…

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          History is full of examples of it being easy. You strip away the human status from a particular group and suddenly you don’t feel so bad hurting them. So long as you don’t talk with them, of course. That usually makes people realise the others are just people too.

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      When they’re not seen as humans but animals, vermin, etc. it becomes easy to commit such atrocities.

      An excerpt from “On Freedom” by Timothy Snyder I’m currently reading helps define it some,

      In Nazi propaganda, east Europeans were subhuman beasts. On Soviet posters, rich peasants were pigs. Russian television today takes this notion to a postmodern extreme: Ukrainians are to be exterminated because they are Nazis, Jews, gays, Satanists, ghouls, zombies, vermin. The next step is violence, the opposite of recognition of the Leib. When we torture or humiliate a body, we further objectify it. After the body has been degraded and the person humiliated, the killer finds the work easier to bear. Some enjoy it.

      How he defines Lieb in the book,

      The word Leib gets us to a new standpoint. The German language has two terms for “body,” Körper and Leib. The word Körper can denote a person’s body but also a “foreign body” (Fremdkörper), a “heavenly body” (Himmelskörper), the “racial body” (Volkskörper), and other objects thought to be subject to physical laws. A Körper might be alive, but it need not be (compare corpse). Stein says, “There can be a Körper without me, but no Leib without me.” The word Leib designates a living human body, or an animal body, or the body of an imaginary creature in a story. A Leib is a Körper, subject to physical laws, but that is not all it is. It has its own rules and so its own opportunities. A Leib can move, a Leib can feel, and a Leib has its own center, impossible to graph precisely in space, which Stein calls a “zero point.” We can always see some of our Leib, but we can never see all of it.

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        See an article about dehumainzation in the Ukraine war

        Ctrl+f ‘orcs’

        No results

        Curious

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        that sounds like how I’d try to explain it but it still doesn’t make sense to me. like if i caught an actual subhuman piece of shit, let’s say a zionist rapist and child murderer, i still couldn’t even imagine taking a selfie with them like this. like wtf is this photo dude.