Eeh. Most of the complaints I see in this thread about Trek 2009 would apply as well to TWoK if people were being even handed. It’s a pew pew action film. There are no deep philosophical questions being tackled. It’s not utopian – Starfleet is portrayed as a straight forward space navy that works with real scientists only begrudgingly.
There’s kick ass high drama and a decent character study of an ageing Kirk, but the character work on Kirk and Spock in 2009 wasn’t all that bad, either.
I actually think 2009 is pretty good for a scifi action movie, and the cast is phenomenal. Chris Pine especially kills it as Kirk. The script is a little stupid, but so is First Contact. I’d still say WoK is better though, but they both saved the franchise in a way.
It’s the one with Khan I really don’t like, and Beyond is just forgettable. And that script was only saved by Simon Pegg, who pretty much just said FINE, ILL DO IT MYSELF GODDAMN.
He wrote a two part blog about how he was recruited to direct and working with Ricardo. He did his research and found his “in” for the movie which Rodenburry approved of which iirc was Hornblower in space.
Nicholas Meyer had never seen Star Trek before he did Wrath of Khan.
People are just crybabies.
…but he clearly came to understand it, and coaxed great performances from the stars. WoK is one of the best films.
Eeh. Most of the complaints I see in this thread about Trek 2009 would apply as well to TWoK if people were being even handed. It’s a pew pew action film. There are no deep philosophical questions being tackled. It’s not utopian – Starfleet is portrayed as a straight forward space navy that works with real scientists only begrudgingly.
There’s kick ass high drama and a decent character study of an ageing Kirk, but the character work on Kirk and Spock in 2009 wasn’t all that bad, either.
I actually think 2009 is pretty good for a scifi action movie, and the cast is phenomenal. Chris Pine especially kills it as Kirk. The script is a little stupid, but so is First Contact. I’d still say WoK is better though, but they both saved the franchise in a way.
It’s the one with Khan I really don’t like, and Beyond is just forgettable. And that script was only saved by Simon Pegg, who pretty much just said FINE, ILL DO IT MYSELF GODDAMN.
He wrote a two part blog about how he was recruited to direct and working with Ricardo. He did his research and found his “in” for the movie which Rodenburry approved of which iirc was Hornblower in space.