How could they when its always cut taxes?

Is voting conservative essentially a fuck-you-to-civi-society vote? Basically slytherin

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    13 hours ago

    False:

    Since at least the Diefenbaker administration liberal governments have closed deficits until Trudeau Jr., while they’ve only gotten worse under conservative leaders. Harper had the highest deficits in history until Justin said “hold my beer, eh.” Mulroney made sales tax explicit, sure, he also made it so it wasn’t on the sticker price and raised the rate. The CPC barely had to do anything because regulations passed under prior liberal governments kept us from taking on bad risk, but I will grant they had some interesting ideas along with the things that have hamstrung workers ever since. 90% of Trudeau’s worst decisions were just saying “Yes AND…” to CPC policy.

    The modern conservative party has no good suggestions, because all the good ideas, have already been stolen by Carney. His policy is basically just getting things back to the Harper baseline, and everything PP has proposed that’s unique, is objectively terrible.

    Your historical revisionism, is bad and you should feel bad.

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      No. You’re wrong. Here’s a chart

      As you can see almost all of our peaks are always around the liberals. The liberals almost unanimously add massive amounts to the debt

      Worse the liberals usually leave things in such a mess that we have massive inflation that has to have massive increases in interest rates which makes the debt grow even faster and they just leave that for conservatives to deal with

      So it would be you who is rewriting history and badly at that

      Trudeau racked up debt and massively spiked inflation, mulroney put that down

      Chretchen only reduced the deficit and debt by stealing 70 billion dollars from the unemployment insurance fund and left things a mess, harper scared us through the economic crisis

      Justin Trudeau borrowed more money than every other prime minister before him and Carney is set to do the same

      The only people who have had good ideas in the last 60 years have been conservatives. And Carney ran on conservative ideas now.

      Sorry kid, you failed that one hard

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        10 hours ago

        The peaks are always the Liberals.

        Congratulations now let’s think about that for one second if there’s a peak, that means it turned around. If there’s just a slope up and to the right, that means the debt only went up. But thank you for providing the evidence for me. I wish you understood it.

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          7 hours ago

          Nope, it doesn’t mean it’s turned around. I can go over the numbers and circumstances leading up to each and every one if you like. I feel like that won’t work out the way you wanted,

          The conservatives came up with gst, free trade agreements, and banking changes that saved us during the worldwide recession, they came up with ‘shovel ready’ infrastructure models during the recession which really worked for us, along with the cmhc buy back which was nothing short of brilliant and kept our banks flush with cash to lend, and about a dozen other things. And PP has proposed many ideas that would make a substantial difference right now. Carney steals ideas but can’t implement.

          I’m sure it’s upsetting because it doesn’t meet with your narrative but that doesn’t make it less true.

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            3 hours ago

            Free trade agreements with whom exactly? China? They didn’t save us from the global recession with GST either, that was the 80s son. The Liberals passed the bank regulations, that the conservatives were all set to repeal right up until the market crashed. I know, I was there.

            They did implement infrastructure projects, although they spent more on advertising them than they spent on the projects, but I’ll give you that one.