From comment in the source they are not flock and at least officially intended for tracking who is going through the low pollution zones and which of them have vehicles that don’t qualify to be there.
There’s a much simpler and less intrusive way to accomplish that: just put up bollards to exclude all automobiles and only allow bicyclesa and pedestrians.
There are a lot of assumptions in this thread so I am going to make another one and assume that these are ULEZ cameras around London.
There was a controversial expansion of the low emissions zone to cover the whole metropolitan area a couple of years ago. After that, groups, mainly from the hard-right factions decided that they wanted to cut them down. This isn’t a privacy move as they weren’t targeting any of the many other existing cameras that are set up for things like vehicle tax and insurance, but more of a “I want to drive what I want no matter how polluting” type thing. There are also overlaps with the 15-minute city and anti-net-zero gang.
Although it sounds nice to have the whole city be demotorised, I don’t think that is quite feasible yet. If you are wanting to be privacy-conscious, using a car is not the way forward.
We have those but many of them cars are allowed to enter to park and it just ends up being cars zooming around to find a parking spot or idling until someone leaves and it still sucks to breathe there
Emergency Service Vehicles can just be exceptions. Like how it is in the rest of the world. Banning cars off of streets and making them into pedestrian zones actually improves access for emergency service vehicles by a lot! Because, you know, there aren’t any cars in the way to block them anymore. A handful of bicycles and some pedestrians can clear an entire road a lot faster than like 4 cars.
The rest of the world thought of this and said, “You know, maybe we should aim to make our emergency service vehicles more specialized and as compact as possible so that they can fit in any street easily and have high maneuverability”. You know what the US did? Yup. They made EMS vehicles bigger and less specialized 🤦♂️…
There aren’t any excuses for car centric street design.
Well then use retractable bollards. We have them in my town (Netherlands), and they have a thing where they will open automatically for emergency services.
They are far more affordable. The road work alone required to install the bollards is more expensive than a basic camera set up and retractable bollards also need digital infrastructure and maintenance
There’s a much simpler and less intrusive way to accomplish that: just put up bollards to exclude all automobiles and only allow bicyclesa and pedestrians.
There are a lot of assumptions in this thread so I am going to make another one and assume that these are ULEZ cameras around London.
There was a controversial expansion of the low emissions zone to cover the whole metropolitan area a couple of years ago. After that, groups, mainly from the hard-right factions decided that they wanted to cut them down. This isn’t a privacy move as they weren’t targeting any of the many other existing cameras that are set up for things like vehicle tax and insurance, but more of a “I want to drive what I want no matter how polluting” type thing. There are also overlaps with the 15-minute city and anti-net-zero gang.
Although it sounds nice to have the whole city be demotorised, I don’t think that is quite feasible yet. If you are wanting to be privacy-conscious, using a car is not the way forward.
We have those but many of them cars are allowed to enter to park and it just ends up being cars zooming around to find a parking spot or idling until someone leaves and it still sucks to breathe there
Works great until an EMS vehicle needs to access the scene.
Emergency Service Vehicles can just be exceptions. Like how it is in the rest of the world. Banning cars off of streets and making them into pedestrian zones actually improves access for emergency service vehicles by a lot! Because, you know, there aren’t any cars in the way to block them anymore. A handful of bicycles and some pedestrians can clear an entire road a lot faster than like 4 cars.
The rest of the world thought of this and said, “You know, maybe we should aim to make our emergency service vehicles more specialized and as compact as possible so that they can fit in any street easily and have high maneuverability”. You know what the US did? Yup. They made EMS vehicles bigger and less specialized 🤦♂️…
There aren’t any excuses for car centric street design.
Placing bollards(unless they are pneumatic retractable bollards) affect ALL cars.
Oh yeah. I hadn’t seen them talking about bollards for some reason. That’s true.
Well then use retractable bollards. We have them in my town (Netherlands), and they have a thing where they will open automatically for emergency services.
Sure, they are totally as affordable to implement widely as concrete bollards…
Camera’s aren’t cheap either, especially if you consider the digital infrastructure and maintenance.
They are far more affordable. The road work alone required to install the bollards is more expensive than a basic camera set up and retractable bollards also need digital infrastructure and maintenance