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TW😶NKS

A comic in four panels:

Panel 1. White text on black

AI Design Logic

Panel 2. A guy sits in a restaurant at a table with a checkered table cloth. A waiter stands near, hands behind back waiting attentively.

Guy: Get me a cheese pizza

Panel 3. The waiter returns with a pizza in hand.

Panel 4. The guy gestures proudly at the pizza. The waiter looks less than amused.

Guy: Wow, look what I made!

  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
    1·
    2 days ago

    Well see that’s the thing about patent/copyright/trademark/etc laws that don’t make sense to me. If it’s illegal to copy someone’s idea and sell it as your own how is it viable to ask AI to do something where it pulls all of the data from someone else’s work and gives it to you and you sell it as your own. (Or use it to make something you sell) In general it would make sense that you would have to pay the person who’s idea it was you used for each sale… Or that no one can own any idea, and patents/copyrights shouldn’t exist at all.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 days ago

        Not sure what malice.sh is, the link goes no where for me.

        That said, as far as I knew a fully AI created work couldn’t be copyrighted, but that doesn’t mean someone who uses AI to make something and sell it can be used legally without purchasing it. I assume you probably could even make a copyrighted work that you used AI to make, so long as it wasn’t fully AI created

        • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
          21·
          2 days ago

          Presumably this:

          malus.sh - Clean Room as a Service | Liberation from Open Source … Clean Room as a Service Finally, liberation from open source license obligations. Our proprietary AI robots independently recreate any open source project from scratch. The result? Legally distinct code with corporate-friendly licensing. No attribution. No copyleft. No problems.

          The problem is that AI actually can do useful work, unlike what the fuckais want people to believe. It can do that. Except you don’t get any updates or support, or help with fixing bugs. So not even sure how useful this is. But oh look how evil lol

          All this shows is how stupid intellectual property, patents and copyright is. We’re not talking about “high art” or ingenious inventions or stuff, it’s all capital sucking up the work of workers and turning it into a commodity. A commodity that fundamentally is easy to copy. And copying isn’t theft, it doesn’t take anything away except the potential profit the capitalists are dreaming of. If you are taking away my copy, my ability to learn or enjoy culture, then you are the thief. Because most of the time there is no profit, only potential profit that would never materialize. We have a 1000 textbook variations about the same topic, because every one has their own copyright instead of collaboration and free resources. Pulp.

          There are no artists posting on reddit, they are no genius comments or novels posted. Millions of books from an industry that produces slop. And LLMs managed to turn all that into something resembling intelligence which might be useful for quite a few things. And they don’t even copy, they use machine learning to turn it into a model of the thing.

          And suddenly everybody looses their fucking mind and pleads for more stringent copyright laws lol.

          Fuck the AI bubble and environmental BS and do address the avalanche of societal problems coming our way, but copyright law is not the fucking answer. It’s an oppressive and imperialist tool to collect rent. And it will make things much worse long term if there are no legal open source/weight AI models.

            • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
              2·
              17 hours ago

              I mean yeah totally, it sounds comically evil lol. But I don’t think this will even work out for them.

              If it could work out to really cleanroom create new standard library stuff, then the “value of programming labour” has actually gone down very much. At least for these kinds of “solved problems”. That would be the moral there, that we have solved certain problems and now have machine intelligence who can create infinite variations and adaptations to this. Which would be awesome, being able to rewrite much of the IT stack in more safe or more performant languages, or automatically optimize and improve. If that was possible already it would be a cause to celebrate. On to code bigger and better things.

              But we’re not even there yet, they’d have plenty of problems, bugs, issues and downsides with their “malus alternative”. So I don’t see a huge issue with this.