I think Jordan covered the rule existing and not to break it, but I’d like to discuss why it’s there to hopefully make this more transparent. Especially since Mitch may be croaking soon also (or already did, who knows?)
Rule 6 is a necessary evil. The reason is that websites which are truly off the rails are often singled out. A mostly leftist forum would be even more likely to be targeted. Community mods should on occasion think what would these posts look like on an FBI filing, or on a hit piece on the DSA for example. Not the same morally, but famously many nationalist/racist sites have been targeted and then had their hosting or ddos protection revoked because of content on the site calling for death or celebrating it with their rules and enforcements having no such limitations.
Different levels of extremes than here obviously, but the corporate landscape and justice dept is not on our side here and so interpretations which seem obvious to you may not be made before damage has been done.
Above all, mods have a responsibility to not create problems for the site that hosts their coms, regardless of deserved or undeserved protection on someone’s legacy.
Besides, it’s just as easy to say, “Warmonger Graham: Never an offensive war he didn’t support, never a dollar from Israel he didn’t immediately allow into his decision making process, never a brown person he didn’t want to kill. He has obtained what he wanted most for others, death. He can now start his final battle without his mortal coil, to start a regime change in hell.”
Going to beat the dead horse but this is another situation where you should be looking long and hard on if Jordan should be a mod.
People will continue to call this and anyone else doing a witch hunt but in this very thread he’s caused a massive comment chain where he acts un modlike and contradicts himself and the rules which muddies an already blurry line. While bragging that he can do it as mod.
Finally unrelated to that what bearing does the usa doj have when lemmy.world isn’t in the usa?
Edit 2 days later.
Didn’t expect a response but still shocked there wasn’t
Edit 2 since mod replied to locked thread.
Turns out all it takes is to be nice to the other mods and they’ll turn a blind eye to anything.
And lw blocking vpns is always easy to forget and a really really annoying and terrible decisions for users
The last I heard about mod removals the admins wanted no responsibility to implement it. I don’t see the other mods rallying to a removal when the admins won’t say one way or the other. I personally find at least 90% agreement with other mod actions and I’m less senior, so it’s not really for me to make a stink, unlike the admins if they so choose imo. As far Jordan specifically, I get along with him personally and also see instances where speaking as a mod wasn’t the best look. It’s minor imo when we’re just told to enforce rules, not some undefined etiquette. We’ll all naturally do this differently from each other with no specifics given, so the standard falls back (without admin input) on following the rules ourselves. If you feel any comment breaks the rules the report it. We do not resolve reports related to our own names and conversations.
Bearing on USA systems is that this is US Politics and VPNs aren’t supported on .world. I don’t suspect the community would prosper under a blacklisting scenario.
I think Jordan covered the rule existing and not to break it, but I’d like to discuss why it’s there to hopefully make this more transparent. Especially since Mitch may be croaking soon also (or already did, who knows?)
Rule 6 is a necessary evil. The reason is that websites which are truly off the rails are often singled out. A mostly leftist forum would be even more likely to be targeted. Community mods should on occasion think what would these posts look like on an FBI filing, or on a hit piece on the DSA for example. Not the same morally, but famously many nationalist/racist sites have been targeted and then had their hosting or ddos protection revoked because of content on the site calling for death or celebrating it with their rules and enforcements having no such limitations.
Different levels of extremes than here obviously, but the corporate landscape and justice dept is not on our side here and so interpretations which seem obvious to you may not be made before damage has been done.
Above all, mods have a responsibility to not create problems for the site that hosts their coms, regardless of deserved or undeserved protection on someone’s legacy.
Besides, it’s just as easy to say, “Warmonger Graham: Never an offensive war he didn’t support, never a dollar from Israel he didn’t immediately allow into his decision making process, never a brown person he didn’t want to kill. He has obtained what he wanted most for others, death. He can now start his final battle without his mortal coil, to start a regime change in hell.”
Going to beat the dead horse but this is another situation where you should be looking long and hard on if Jordan should be a mod.
People will continue to call this and anyone else doing a witch hunt but in this very thread he’s caused a massive comment chain where he acts un modlike and contradicts himself and the rules which muddies an already blurry line. While bragging that he can do it as mod.
Finally unrelated to that what bearing does the usa doj have when lemmy.world isn’t in the usa?
Edit 2 days later.
Didn’t expect a response but still shocked there wasn’t
Edit 2 since mod replied to locked thread.
Turns out all it takes is to be nice to the other mods and they’ll turn a blind eye to anything.
And lw blocking vpns is always easy to forget and a really really annoying and terrible decisions for users
The last I heard about mod removals the admins wanted no responsibility to implement it. I don’t see the other mods rallying to a removal when the admins won’t say one way or the other. I personally find at least 90% agreement with other mod actions and I’m less senior, so it’s not really for me to make a stink, unlike the admins if they so choose imo. As far Jordan specifically, I get along with him personally and also see instances where speaking as a mod wasn’t the best look. It’s minor imo when we’re just told to enforce rules, not some undefined etiquette. We’ll all naturally do this differently from each other with no specifics given, so the standard falls back (without admin input) on following the rules ourselves. If you feel any comment breaks the rules the report it. We do not resolve reports related to our own names and conversations.
Bearing on USA systems is that this is US Politics and VPNs aren’t supported on .world. I don’t suspect the community would prosper under a blacklisting scenario.
Gonna block this comm. Stupid rule.