See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
Not really, I’ve been in that situation. Her buddy said nice dick, people laughed, that was that. When I got across the room to where my clothes were I got dressed. You might just be a prude.
Okay, I’ll just start hanging out naked around people who didn’t agree to see my junk, and if anyone feels uncomfortable I’ll call them a prude. We’ll see how that goes.
Your anecdote about a few people who happened to be pro-nudity doesn’t change that. The same situation could’ve landed you in jail and registered as a sex offender if your audience happened to be different.
No it couldn’t when you’re in a private space. Plenty of people have seen my dick because they came into a space where I was free to have my dick out for whatever reason. Never had an issue. Are you autistic or just really bad at social cues? This isn’t complicated. There’s times and places that nudity isn’t inappropriate. Private spaces are one. Have you ever seen in person the opposite sex naked? It’s not a big deal.
There’s a difference between “I’ve been naked with another adult in a mutually consensual situation” and “oh haha, let me just hang out naked to make people uncomfortable so I can laugh at them.”
Yes. If people come into my private spaces they do so with the understanding that they may see me nude. Given the context of the op the implication is the flings friends came over after the fling had some fun and thus came into the nude persons space where they’re allowed to be naked. Their discomfort with her nudity is their problem. You’re projecting that it was some sort of power play when a remarkable number of people just aren’t bothered by nudity because it’s not inherently sexual.
This isn’t her private space. Why would her fling’s friends be at her apartment?
If this wasn’t a power play then why would she be meming about it?
If this was projection on my part then it would be totally fine for me to hang out naked at “my fling’s” apartment while she has friends over? That would go entirely differently and you know it.
Yeah it’s fling’s space where she was invited to be comfortable up to and including nudity. If fling was uncomfortable with it they’d have said something. If flings friend’s were uncomfortable they’d have said something. If you’re nude in a space with other people it’s amusing when they try and fail to pretend you’re not nude. They know they’re nude. It’s not a big deal. And it wouldn’t because I’ve literally been in that exact situation with at three or four different partners. Nobody cared. Y’all are just porn-brained.
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
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I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
That’s not what this post is about.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
Not really, I’ve been in that situation. Her buddy said nice dick, people laughed, that was that. When I got across the room to where my clothes were I got dressed. You might just be a prude.
Okay, I’ll just start hanging out naked around people who didn’t agree to see my junk, and if anyone feels uncomfortable I’ll call them a prude. We’ll see how that goes.
Your anecdote about a few people who happened to be pro-nudity doesn’t change that. The same situation could’ve landed you in jail and registered as a sex offender if your audience happened to be different.
No it couldn’t when you’re in a private space. Plenty of people have seen my dick because they came into a space where I was free to have my dick out for whatever reason. Never had an issue. Are you autistic or just really bad at social cues? This isn’t complicated. There’s times and places that nudity isn’t inappropriate. Private spaces are one. Have you ever seen in person the opposite sex naked? It’s not a big deal.
There’s a difference between “I’ve been naked with another adult in a mutually consensual situation” and “oh haha, let me just hang out naked to make people uncomfortable so I can laugh at them.”
Did you not read the OP?
Yes. If people come into my private spaces they do so with the understanding that they may see me nude. Given the context of the op the implication is the flings friends came over after the fling had some fun and thus came into the nude persons space where they’re allowed to be naked. Their discomfort with her nudity is their problem. You’re projecting that it was some sort of power play when a remarkable number of people just aren’t bothered by nudity because it’s not inherently sexual.
This isn’t her private space. Why would her fling’s friends be at her apartment?
If this wasn’t a power play then why would she be meming about it?
If this was projection on my part then it would be totally fine for me to hang out naked at “my fling’s” apartment while she has friends over? That would go entirely differently and you know it.
Yeah it’s fling’s space where she was invited to be comfortable up to and including nudity. If fling was uncomfortable with it they’d have said something. If flings friend’s were uncomfortable they’d have said something. If you’re nude in a space with other people it’s amusing when they try and fail to pretend you’re not nude. They know they’re nude. It’s not a big deal. And it wouldn’t because I’ve literally been in that exact situation with at three or four different partners. Nobody cared. Y’all are just porn-brained.
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
Imagine trying to equate comfortable nudity and accepting one’s body to “YEAH BUT WHAT IF THEY STARTED CUTTING THEMSELVES NOW WHAT!?”
What a weird reach. Just admit you hyper sexualize nudity and get it over with.
Imagine trying to tell everyone else that your culture and belief system is right and others are wrong.
Quite imperialist.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
That’s not what this post is about.
Sounds like something you should tell OP…
I think that is one thing the original post is missing and I am suggesting is necessary.
That is an insane comparison. It does not help your argument one bit.
It’s all about context. Deliberately exposing yourself without consent to someone could cause similar harm.
Up until the above comment, that is what the commenter was implicitly arguing, that it was fine to force your nakeness on others.