I agree with you, but then isn’t it strange that AI does a whole lot of something instead of nothing? Like, the high amount of effort they put into making AI a big thing runs counter to the laziness of getting paid to do nothing.
Though I guess they ARE getting paid doing nothing, with how many data centers are getting cancelled.
Not when you realize that the “something” they’re charging you for is:
a) bastardized cargo culted knockoff of “something” so insubstantial that it’s very nearly “something-shaped nothing”
b) the “something” is made of stuff that isn’t even theirs.
Not only is it giving you a bamboo and thatch sculpture of an airplane when you ask for an airplane; it’s made of STOLEN bamboo and STOLEN thatch.
I hope you don’t misunderstand me by my saying “something” to imply it’s anything substantial, significant, or even good. I’m very anti-AI in all aspects of our lives, just so you know where I’m coming from.
Yes, the theft of intellectual property and art to train AI models is in keeping with their laziness, and yes, the models don’t improve our lives in any way. But they can’t exactly steal the electricity needed to power data centers, nor can they steal the silicon required to manufacture all the CPU’s, GPU’s, SSD’s, and RAM they require. All those things are enormous capex and opex, and that’s what I mean by “something.”
That’s a lot of work they’re doing to push AI, and the only plan I can think of to recoup those costs is to expect taxpayers to foot the bill: they want municipalities to pay for the increase in electricity costs, cover the pollution and devastation their DC’s generate, all without creating jobs and opportunities in the region (because why would they pay labor a fair share, yuck). And the finale, when all those investments fail to generate any profit they want a government bailout to keep from going belly up.
I just don’t think any of that is worth the effort you know what I mean?
I did not mean to sound as though I had been disagreeing with you ^.^; my comment was more intended to have a ‘yes-and’ kind of vibe~
but I really do like all that you had to say here and I still agree!
While they’re truly not stealing the electricity, what I would hope to imply is that they are nevertheless acquiring it via nefarious means–in that many of these data centers are building gas combustion generators to supplement their power usage in violation of environmental regulations, workplace safety standards, and generally all the laws that say “you can’t do that without proper documentation and licensing” etc.
So yeah–the “stolen thatch and stolen bamboo” isn’t literally stolen (like you said!) but rather just ill-gotten.
Also I have indeed noticed the way that there’s so much money being thrown around, especially the funds they’ve gotten from “investors” which are really just debt. They’re going into massive debt to pay contractors and vendors… and that cap-ex and op-ex? sometimes I wonder if that’s the real motive. Just a big stinkin’ money laundering racket to bilk people out of their savings (anyone with a managed retirement investment fund that happens to do business with these jerks) and squirrel it away on “other companies” who are “working for” them.
They AREN’T worth the effort. It’s the emperor’s new clothes all over again. The only thing they’re really actually TRYING to do, I hypothesize, is just keep everyone distracted so they can do exactly what you said they would: make themselves ‘too big to fail’ and then ride off into the sunset when the shoddy facade they propped up comes crashing down, leaving the public sector to foot the bill…
But it does provide nothing. Whatever AI gives is a hallucination, that’s practically nothing since it’s not information you can rely on and you have to verify it anyway.
Think about it this way, if you get connected to an AI chatbot instead of a real person, does it feel like the company is giving you their time? Or does it feel like they are giving you nothing?
Think about it this way, if you get connected to an AI chatbot instead of a real person, does it feel like the company is giving you their time? Or does it feel like they are giving you nothing?
Compared to insufferable automated phone systems, which have existed for decades and employ exactly no one, they are a vast improvement.
I agree with you, but then isn’t it strange that AI does a whole lot of something instead of nothing? Like, the high amount of effort they put into making AI a big thing runs counter to the laziness of getting paid to do nothing.
Though I guess they ARE getting paid doing nothing, with how many data centers are getting cancelled.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/economy/nearly-half-of-us-data-centers-planned-for-2026-canceled-or-delayed-and-it-s-expected-to-get-worse/ar-AA20sl2J
Not when you realize that the “something” they’re charging you for is:
a) bastardized cargo culted knockoff of “something” so insubstantial that it’s very nearly “something-shaped nothing”
b) the “something” is made of stuff that isn’t even theirs.
Not only is it giving you a bamboo and thatch sculpture of an airplane when you ask for an airplane; it’s made of STOLEN bamboo and STOLEN thatch.
Yep let’s take entirety of user submitted content to the internet over 30+ years and repackage it and sell it back to you as if it was our product.
I hope you don’t misunderstand me by my saying “something” to imply it’s anything substantial, significant, or even good. I’m very anti-AI in all aspects of our lives, just so you know where I’m coming from.
Yes, the theft of intellectual property and art to train AI models is in keeping with their laziness, and yes, the models don’t improve our lives in any way. But they can’t exactly steal the electricity needed to power data centers, nor can they steal the silicon required to manufacture all the CPU’s, GPU’s, SSD’s, and RAM they require. All those things are enormous capex and opex, and that’s what I mean by “something.”
That’s a lot of work they’re doing to push AI, and the only plan I can think of to recoup those costs is to expect taxpayers to foot the bill: they want municipalities to pay for the increase in electricity costs, cover the pollution and devastation their DC’s generate, all without creating jobs and opportunities in the region (because why would they pay labor a fair share, yuck). And the finale, when all those investments fail to generate any profit they want a government bailout to keep from going belly up.
I just don’t think any of that is worth the effort you know what I mean?
oh, allow me to clarify–!
I did not mean to sound as though I had been disagreeing with you ^.^; my comment was more intended to have a ‘yes-and’ kind of vibe~
but I really do like all that you had to say here and I still agree!
While they’re truly not stealing the electricity, what I would hope to imply is that they are nevertheless acquiring it via nefarious means–in that many of these data centers are building gas combustion generators to supplement their power usage in violation of environmental regulations, workplace safety standards, and generally all the laws that say “you can’t do that without proper documentation and licensing” etc.
So yeah–the “stolen thatch and stolen bamboo” isn’t literally stolen (like you said!) but rather just ill-gotten.
Also I have indeed noticed the way that there’s so much money being thrown around, especially the funds they’ve gotten from “investors” which are really just debt. They’re going into massive debt to pay contractors and vendors… and that cap-ex and op-ex? sometimes I wonder if that’s the real motive. Just a big stinkin’ money laundering racket to bilk people out of their savings (anyone with a managed retirement investment fund that happens to do business with these jerks) and squirrel it away on “other companies” who are “working for” them.
They AREN’T worth the effort. It’s the emperor’s new clothes all over again. The only thing they’re really actually TRYING to do, I hypothesize, is just keep everyone distracted so they can do exactly what you said they would: make themselves ‘too big to fail’ and then ride off into the sunset when the shoddy facade they propped up comes crashing down, leaving the public sector to foot the bill…
Any proof that that actually happened?
https://cybernews.com/tech/meta-leeched-82-terabytes-of-pirated-books-to-train-its-llama-ai-documents-reveal/
But it does provide nothing. Whatever AI gives is a hallucination, that’s practically nothing since it’s not information you can rely on and you have to verify it anyway.
Think about it this way, if you get connected to an AI chatbot instead of a real person, does it feel like the company is giving you their time? Or does it feel like they are giving you nothing?
Compared to insufferable automated phone systems, which have existed for decades and employ exactly no one, they are a vast improvement.