• [deleted]@piefed.world
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    3 days ago

    While I hate Trump, the moron who worship him are the only reason Theil and Vought’s evil plans are being implemented. Vance doesn’t have Trump’s kind of charisma that works on morons, or the stubborn man-child force of will to make things happen.

    MAGA will fall apart without their glorious leader at the helm and the bucket of snakes will start to eat itself. The chaos will still do a lot of damage, but not as organized because they don’t have anyone to fall in line behind.

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      His base might fall apart. The people who voted for him. But those in power stay in power. Vought is the lynchpin on P25. Miller. Vance. Rubio. The oligarch assholes. They’ll live on.

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        Might?

        The entire right-wing is an unstable house of cards that started being built in the Nixon Administration. (Literally, the Fox News President was Nixon’s media guy)

        The only thing holding that Narcissism Coalition together is Donald Trump’s necromancer.

        When Trump finally shuffles off to hell, the right will splinter into 3-5 factions.

        None of those factions will develop a majority among the right because the only thing they have in common is Trump’s celebratory bigotry and ability to lie without microexpressions setting off their internal alarms.

        EX: JD Vance and Stephen Miller and Mike Johnson are all Nazi trash but they are also three very different faces of the same evil. You won’t see them at the same cookout unless it’s some kind of bigoted work event.

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          This is wishful thinking. Conservatives rallied around whoever their guy was at all times before Trump, just like they rally around Trump, and just like they’ll do with someone else once Trump is out of the picture.

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          I have family members who just stay loyal to republicans. It’s bizarre, but it exists. Ranting about balancing the budget for years only to stand behind this admin denying anything negative, never mind the present budget.

          There is a centered, loyal, toe the line no matter what or who base out there.

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          is it really an unstable house of cards if it’s only gotten stronger and moved things further to the right consistently over 50+ years?

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            Yes. Fascism consumes itself as it bellows.

            The last 50 years was the slow build-up, the frog in the pot.

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              I can’t see many historical examples of fascism or any kind of dictatorship that ended well for its population. There can be a lot of infighting when different factions try to grab the power, but it doesn’t often end with regime change.

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                Well, a good indication that they end in regime change is that you had to dig through history to find the examples.

                Go ahead and take all the time you need on how that works.

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        Epstein’s buddybud Bill Barr was in the Bush administration. That’s Bush SENIOR.

        Every new government is just a drink shaker of old names coming and going for decades.

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      My brother in space jesus, them idiots aren’t going anywhere, they’ve been around for a long time already and they always just morph into a new form like a fucking hydra when the time comes, it’s not like they’re hard to manipulate, and the propaganda grip is total.

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      They might bitch and moan about their candidate, but election day they show up and they vote R like clockwork.