Roe v Wade was overturned under Biden, correct? And Kamala Harris campaigned on being the “most pro-Israel president” did she not?

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    Where? Cuz I’m in Trump country. And there certainly aren’t any around here. The only one I can think of that was on the ballot here was PSL and I did vote for them I just unregistered right after so I wouldn’t get mailers and phone calls.

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      My suggestion if there really is no one and the “lesser evil” is liberals under the discipline of the DNC, then voting in that case is usually just detrimental. The thing to be concerned with in that situation is agitating under a socialist banner, appealing to things like materially improving people’s lives, and while I wouldn’t consider the electoral element to be that important, these things can be a basis for socialist candidates running and trying to appeal to people sick of the GOP and Dems, which more people voting for neither would benefit.

      People try to play the “harm reduction” game in various ways and I think we have decades of history demonstrating that that’s a political dead end, and the only way to even potentially get by is by having the courage to start small from an independent socialist banner rather than give the Dems more power while ultimately getting consumed by them. If your only justification is that the liberal will bail a tiny bit of water from a sinking ship, that is inadequate because you are simultaneously feeding into their project of keeping the ship sinking, and I can only really imagine an exception in the case of them being – to a high standard of evidence – both willing and able to advance policy that will directly benefit socialists in a positive sense, not just by being “not the Republican”. An example of this that some Dems do campaign on is ranked choice voting; if you have someone who is credibly dedicated to and credibly capable of establishing that, then I think voting for them is fair.

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        How does ranked choice voting help socialists? Bougie Democracy is never going to be fixed by electing socialists. elections are just a way to gain PR before the revolution.

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              We’ve had liberal democracy for a long enough that no one can remember a time before elections, they have a lot of legitimacy among the masses. If the socialist party gets 2% of the vote, the majority of people are going to assume this means socialism is unpopular and impossible. Socialists need to delegitimize elections, which means showing that winning elections isn’t enough.