Roe v Wade was overturned under Biden, correct? And Kamala Harris campaigned on being the “most pro-Israel president” did she not?
Roe v Wade was overturned under Biden, correct? And Kamala Harris campaigned on being the “most pro-Israel president” did she not?
Come on ‘are we the baddies’ is one of the most well known sketches of the past couple decades, and aside from the swastika and SS runes its probably the 3rd most well known nazi symbol surpassing stuff like the black sun, sure a lot of Americans are ignorant, but I feel a lot of people did recognize it and thought ‘well I only know it because of my super in depth and unique knowledge of WWII history, the rest of these idiots won’t’
are you serious? Do you think “are we the baddies?” is well known? That is an internet meme that is in a very specific internet subculture of people who know a lot about politics. The average american does not know what that is. This is a common problem I see on Hexbear where people just don’t realize how fundamentally different the average persons life is to theirs. And how uneducated on politics most people are.
Yeah im online, ive been on this community for around a decade, ive seen the “baddies” sketch a couple of times. I
would not have identified the skull out of context as a Nazi insignia. I’m a dumbass/I dont really put a lot of focus into Nazi insignia and symbology, is what it is.
Yes in terms of comedy sketches its very well known, topped by stuff like SNL and Chappelle but its up there, yeah maybe its confined but to internet users and comedy fans but those aren’t exactly small groups
I’m in europe so perhaps our public school education focuses more on WWII and thus consider knowledge of the tottenkopf pretty surface level knowledge
I think its unfair to say I’m out of touch with how the average person’s life is, maybe out of touch with the average American but tbh it seem like half of them are out of touch with the other half so I’m not going to implicitly trust your anecdote even if it seems correct
Ok but how was it used in those sketches? If it’s just THERE then people are 100% going to see it and think, “Nazi’s in the sketch… creepy skull thing… must be something they added in to make it spooky or whatever.”
A totemkopf is literally a skull with some bones. That is a VERY common thing in the US (idk about Europe) that is just like a vague spooky thing. Pirates, halloween, etc. Nobody is going to see that on a Nazi uniform on TV and assume it must be a Nazi symbol. They’ll just think it’s been put on the uniform to make them spooky since they’re the bad guys.
Also as someone who went through American public school I’ll tell you exactly what was taught. “Hitler was bad. He killed a lot of jews. The Europeans were so scared. Then America came and saved the day. Yay! They were so grateful. Then… dun… dun…dunnnnnn THE EVIL USSR APPEARED! OH NO!”
I would literally bet money that 30% or more of Americans do not know that Germany is in Europe. That is how basic the knowledge of the world is here.
SS uniforms with Totenkopf skull hats and badges are featured in many other pieces of media popular with americans e.g. Inglorious Basterds, Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, every History Channel doc that isn’t about aliens, Wolfenstein games etc, the mitchell and webb sketch isn’t the only place someone consuming mainstream media would have seen it associated with Nazis
(edit: I was literally just scrolling netflix and this was near the top lol)
And the swastika is a hooked cross
imo confusing
with 
seem as incongrous to me as confusing
Not impossible at a glance as both examples feature most of the same design elements, yet are actually very visually distinct from one another if you’re paying a modicum of attention, at least imo
fair enough, so maybe I’m moving the goalposts here: but that % is probably better with americans who have travelled internationally as mercenaries, and/or vote in local elections and consume media related to them
random thing i wanted to add but to be fair i thought i first saw the totenkopf in trailers for inglorious bastards but that came out in 2009 and the are we the baddies thing was something like 2007
Also i think characterizing it as a skull and crossbones is different than saying a swastika is a hooked cross because it like, literally is a skull and crossbones? Just with very specific crossbones placement, fractures in the skull, etc. tbh the totenkopf looks kinda cartoonish. but i guess the pirate stuff also has ‘pirate elements’ i.e. the eyepatch, while also somehow seeming less cartoonish
Yes a Totenkopf is literally a skull and crossbones, as a swastika is literally a hooked cross or to be more accurate the Hakenkreuz(what the Nazi’s used) is literally a Swastika(which is originally a Sanskrit term for the symbol) the hakenkreuz being a swastika at a specific angle and with straight edges
Both cases are the same: Skull & Crossbones and Swastikas are categories of symbols, the totenkopf and hakenkreuz are specific and unique versions of the more general category of symbol
But regardless that’s all semantics, my main point here being if you paying more attention than a just passing glace then it is easy imo to identify the totenkopf as being different from pirate jolly rogers even if both are literally skull and crossbones, as is it also easy to determine than a hakenkreuz(at least in official NSDAP usage) is not the same what’s used in Hindu and Buddhist religious symbols even though they are literally the same shape