The patriarchy is the framework that allows and reinforces the idea that women are commodities, that we are objects for men to own, but it’s all in our heads and we are arbitrarily choosing to interpret men’s harassment as objectification?
Did I get that right?
Approaching a woman with “I think you’re hot” isn’t really up for debate whether it’s objectifying. Even if the man using that phrase doesn’t think he’s objectifying the woman he is trying to court, commenting specifically on her appearance in relation to what he wants is pretty clear.
Edit: it’s like you didn’t even read their last sentence-
It’s important to note that your intentions do not matter if they do not match your perceived intentions.
So if I perceive that every human that gets within 2 ft of me is attempting to murder me, it’s their fault?
How is “I think you are hot” objectifying when “hot” is a descriptor of a human beings qualities? You got call a house hot. Or a train. I suppose there is hot rod but I am pretty sure that came from a different definition of hot and not attraction.
I just don’t understand how you could perceive it as objectifying by default.
I’m going to respectfully stop this conversation here. Not because I can’t explain how men can objectify women and why women can pick up on when men want to fuck us vs befriending us, but because it won’t be productive and this isn’t the community to do so.
because hot means “youre really attractive when I look at you” here. You dont know what they like, they dont know their hobbys, their style of humor, only what they look like. That is the difference.
If you said, “you know I find you to be really hot when your wit is so quick” its different.
Ive told my husband, “Youre so hot when youre getting excited over basketball cards” cuz, he is, im not objectifying him. His personality is what makes him hot, not his giant cock.
Also, telling someone youve known as a person for a time, like talked to them before, know them already a bit, hot is less off putting and random, than a person you just met. A person you just met the only thing you can call them hot for is how they look. Thats objectifying.
The patriarchy is the framework that allows and reinforces the idea that women are commodities, that we are objects for men to own, but it’s all in our heads and we are arbitrarily choosing to interpret men’s harassment as objectification?
Did I get that right?
Approaching a woman with “I think you’re hot” isn’t really up for debate whether it’s objectifying. Even if the man using that phrase doesn’t think he’s objectifying the woman he is trying to court, commenting specifically on her appearance in relation to what he wants is pretty clear.
Edit: it’s like you didn’t even read their last sentence-
just popping in to say youre amazing :)
Aw thank you! So are you :3
Right? I love Velma, she helps bring out the whiners so I can tag them to ignore later :)
So many “misandry whiner” tags in this thread lol
So if I perceive that every human that gets within 2 ft of me is attempting to murder me, it’s their fault?
How is “I think you are hot” objectifying when “hot” is a descriptor of a human beings qualities? You got call a house hot. Or a train. I suppose there is hot rod but I am pretty sure that came from a different definition of hot and not attraction.
I just don’t understand how you could perceive it as objectifying by default.
I’d like you to take a look at rule #1 of this group and ask yourself: “Am I supposed to be commenting here?”
I’m not making the accusation. Yet. But I’m asking the question.
I’m going to respectfully stop this conversation here. Not because I can’t explain how men can objectify women and why women can pick up on when men want to fuck us vs befriending us, but because it won’t be productive and this isn’t the community to do so.
Please read the rules and respect this space.
because hot means “youre really attractive when I look at you” here. You dont know what they like, they dont know their hobbys, their style of humor, only what they look like. That is the difference.
If you said, “you know I find you to be really hot when your wit is so quick” its different.
Ive told my husband, “Youre so hot when youre getting excited over basketball cards” cuz, he is, im not objectifying him. His personality is what makes him hot, not his giant cock.
Also, telling someone youve known as a person for a time, like talked to them before, know them already a bit, hot is less off putting and random, than a person you just met. A person you just met the only thing you can call them hot for is how they look. Thats objectifying.