• minorkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    “Trump has further eroded America’s ability to know reality in order to create more favourable conditions for his strategy of constantly lying.”

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      Yep. They cited it as a source of climate panic. Which, like, yeah, knowing what’s actually happening with the climate right now definitely will freak you out, but…

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    Covid numbers wouldn’t be so bad if we stop testing, and ocean health won’t get worse if we stop measuring.

    Kill that messenger!

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      How many decades do you suspect this admin is going to single-handedly set the US back?

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        I’m 36. I fully expect to be dead before things begin improving for the working class in north America as the result of this regime.

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          I wonder if a 9 yo will see brighter days. I won’t be surprised if we all have to love underground before I die

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            Better start digging that bunker now yo.

            The upcoming el nino and blue ocean event/s are going to seriously start moving the timelines up for all this collapsey apocalypse shit, and we’re already well into ‘faster than expected’ territory as it is.

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          Problem is that we share the same world. Even if left alone, Americans kill our common world with their consumption habits and outdated energy sources.

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        Well helping running the way and the Marshall plan after that was what laid the basis for the ‘America as a role model’ and subsequent decades of televised and movie propaganda was what consolidated it.

        It was already eroding under Bush, but this dipshit has spent all the goodwill there was.

        So at least 85 years, I’ll say

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      The oligarchs know full well what’s happening, course. Before their strategy was in buying the narrative - e.g. scientists don’t all agree on this (cos we funded and amplified two crackpots), or “we’re actually still in an Ice Age”, or “how to reduce your personal carbon footprint” - but they also know there’s going to be a tremendous amount of anger and upheaval when critical systems of human society start to break down and they don’t want any of that righteous ire directed at themselves.

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      If I had to guess I’d say some corporations specialized in fucking up ecosystems bribed him. As a result they will enjoy a short term increase in profits (or at least in stock market valuation) from being able to conduct business unchecked.

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        No purportedly related attack seemingly has been directed or credible. They all were terrible and not even remotely close, so it’s either fake, unrelated, or a false flag.

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            He got feet inside just past the security gate and then fell down due to nothing. He got a visual on nobody in particular and named nobody in particular and there is no conclusive evidence he fired any bullets. He might as well have stayed home and played in his yard, not even close.

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        I think there’s a list where they all try to organise schedules so that they don’t interfere with each other’s plans.

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          Sure, but he is doing all this for the corporation oligarch overlords. They are the ones benefiting from all this (Trump takes his cut of course), and they will want to keep benefiting after he dies.

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            RFK Jr: (standing by, salivating as he retrieves his fun size field dressing kit from his sock garter)

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          But is there any reason to expect things will suddenly get better when he does? His allies will fight each other for the throne when he dies and the most unscrupulous will win it

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            Nah, you’re fucked. It will take decades to get to the point the US was in before he got president.

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      My grandfather had skin cancer and type 2 diabetes and woke up every morning to eat 2 lemon Tastycake pies. He never quit smoking and couldn’t really stand or think well, and wasted his money on eBay cars and trying to flee to different plots of lands around the world.

      Anyways, he died just recently at 88 years old.
      People forget humans are durable until they aren’t. Medicine makes it easier to hide and get a couple extra years, but unfortunately for all of us his body will hold on till it doesnt anymore.

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    Ahh ignoring it and demanding the world change to match what you want to be true… A tale as old as Americans.

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    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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    It is bad. But its sooooo on fucking brand. If there isn’t some “respected body” to suggest what you did is bad, then you did nothing wrong. He doesn’t hate climate science past it stops him from doing what he wants. But if you can frame it in a way that motivates people against him (less fisheries means less sport fishing, less wild areas means less hunting, no snap benefits means more crime) you nip away at his base, and he doesnt have a ton of support. its marginal vs the voting public, even in midterms.

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      Whoa whoa whoa. “No SNAP == more crime”? 🤬 That’s some self-hate prop BS, but I can understand how it feels factual. 😢

      edit: I apologize, it was very late and I didn’t phrase that well enough. These “crimes” are labeled such by the oppressor class and are not real crime. “Stealing” food to eat? Fuck off ”leaders", not a crime.

      My sleep-deprived intent was to simply point out the perils of simplification in its broadening of interpretation by paring down specificity, TBH

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        when people are forced to choose starvation or shoplifting, there’s not a great deal of choice there

        it’s not self hate: it’s an acknowledgment that SNAP is survival, and people will find a way to survive with or without it… without it, it’s just far less fair and measurable

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        No SNAP == more crime"? 🤬 That’s some self-hate prop BS

        On the contrary. The vast majority of crime is the result of poverty and social desperation.

        “Criminals” aren’t a separate breed of contemptible human. They’re mostly regular people doing what they feel they have to in order to make it through the day/week/month/year/life.

        It stands to reason that crimes of desperation such as shoplifting groceries, petty enrichment crimes, and drug use will happen more often when people lose their lifelines to barely being able to feed themselves and their families.

        That’s not a “poor people are criminal scum” thing.

        It’s a “the vast majority of crime is a result of poverty and other social issues putting regular people into difficult situations where they’re more likely to have to/think they have to break the law to get by” thing.

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          “Criminals” aren’t a separate breed of contemptible human. They’re mostly regular people doing what they feel they have to in order to make it through the day/week/month/year/life.

          True, and when politicians say they are “tough on crime” and other shit that suggests some people are just “bad criminals”, all they’re really doing is spouting racist dog whistles.

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    Yeah because why do the fishermen deserve to know what the weather is going to be like. How could that possibly be useful.

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      If they wanted weather day they should have

      bribed
      

      lobbied harder

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    He heard “Bouys” and thought they said “Boys” and was like “Bring 'em to me!”