Just found out that this little bitch bird is killing all the other small birds that lived for years on the trees next to our house.

I noticed lately that the usual birds sounds are gone for the past three weeks, it appears this fucker is killing them

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    11 days ago

    Maybe you misunderstood me, i would never go and hunt a bird down, but this fucker appeared from no where. and all the birds living in our trees for 20 years are now gone because of him.

    What exactly do you want me to do, they (little singing birds) became part of our daily lives, and all of the sudden they are gone.

    My upstairs neighbor told me that this bird was killing the small birds (RIP the black yellow prince who lived in our lemon tree)

    I always try to provide safe environment for the birds, i chase away cats all the time, so yes i want to chase him away.

    Fuck him, Its not his natural habitat, its the home of the singing birds for two decades.

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      11 days ago

      I understand you are upset your backyard friends were hurt, potentially by the jay. As I said, I empathize greatly with that, as I’ve watched the deaths of some of my own backyard friends to other animals. It’s very reasonable to be upset that it happened, but you just seem a bit more angry than is reasonable. That I don’t like, because I have to work with cases where people do act on that anger, and with this being my introduction to you, it did not make a good impression.

      Do Eurasian jays not have an equal right to exist as the birds you chose to love? If it did indeed harm them, it was not out of malice, it is just what jays are sometimes meant to do. You don’t have to enjoy that part of them, but from reading about them, they eat more insects, eggs, and sometimes even birds during the early half of the year, and then become peaceful nut and seed gatherers in the second half. That’s how they ensure their survival. That jay is someone else’s favorite bird, just as the one that sadly was killed this time was yours. Eventually that jay will become someone else’s meal as well.

      If you want to deter him from living near you, that is your prerogative to try, if you are abiding by your local laws at least in doing so. Or since the damage is already done, you could learn more about this bird who has also found your yard to be a lovely and safe place now too. It is a corvid, like crows, ravens, and other jays. They are highly intelligent for birds, have great vocal abilities, and will do many quirky and entertaining things. Many birds will chase off or kill other birds and their eggs/babies. They are still little dinosaurs. If you dislike all birds that do that, you will likely have very few left to enjoy.

      Cats are one thing, as they are not natural. There should not be so many of them, they should not be everywhere, and they should not be killing even a fraction of the birds they do. They are a human made problem. But a family of jays is 100% natural. Being mad at it is like being mad at the ocean after a flood.

      It is not your fault this happened. You have provided a safe and wonderful space for your birds. They have given you years of joy. You will always have wonderful thoughts of those birds. But this is one of the normal outcomes for a wild animal. I like bunnies and mice and squirrels and other fuzzy little guys. But I also like birds of prey. There is conflict. There are winners and losers. But it’s temporary and all part of the way life works. Do mourn your animal friends, but this is your second day being upset about it. And coming to a bird friendly forum to trash a bird doesn’t feel like the right space to publicly reflect on that anger as you come to terms with it. I don’t know what offmychest type communities we have for example, but something like that might be more appropriate. But a space like this is going to have people like me that are going to be a little less sympathetic when we’re reading insults and hostilities directed at a living creature. I’ve got no ill will toward you, but I’m going to be concerned when I read someone getting mad at one specific animal.

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        11 days ago

        What you wrote makes sense, i am not hostile to any bird. it feels like this bird invaded my house but in reality -as you mentioned- that is not the case, first because animals don’t abide to human norms and secondly he liked the trees.

        Anyway RIP little prince

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          11 days ago

          Image search says little prince was some type of sunbird perhaps? They do look very beautiful and wiki says there are around 150 species of them.

          I will have to read more about them. They all look very beautiful. I’m curious to hear their song later when I get a chance. It says people consider it not pleasant, but since I like raptor noises, I may enjoy it 😄

          RIP to your little one, and I hope its relatives soon return to your lemon tree. It did say they were also pollinators, after all. They sound like pretty territorial birds themselves, so they may still reclaim the yard. ❤️

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            11 days ago

            You can hear it today, i hope the video works, i dont know how anyone can find this annoying,

            he had wife i think, she has the body same color but with yellow beak.

            Here is the latest short video i took of him, he came when i was hanging the washed clothes in the balcony ( in may )

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              11 days ago

              Sounds like a regular bird cheep cheep sound to me, nothing I’d think anyone wouldn’t like. The description had me thinking it’d be something shrieking like a catbird, but those just make me laugh. It was in context of why they aren’t kept as house birds, so it may be too basic for that, but in my opinion I’d rather they stay free outdoors.

              I hope they will return for you soon and maybe even find balance with the jays. ❤️