I looked over OPs account and found nothing about zionism.
The meme is also about the faith of the seven and the old gods as well as the tree kin (names can vary depending on how bad my translation is) all of which comes from the books “the song of ice and fire” and a series made based on it “game of thrones”
No. Those are historical pictures of the price to be paid when you spend your life doing this
It’s ugly, it’s unsettling, it’s uncomfortable, it’s graphic. But if the subject is “lets comment and upvote how violent we want to be against the system”, while I wholeheartedly endorse that sentiment, that is what you need to be capable of because this is what they are doing with their power. Everyone needs to see what happens to the vulnerable when you use talk while the victimizers use action. Everyone needs to be reminded of what it actually looks like when you chose to fight back with action.
The internet is full of calls for violence from people who have never actually been in a situation where they inflict a life altering level of violence on another person, much less a life ending one. It’s not Hollywood and it’s not superheroes. Your enemies may have abandoned their humanity but they’re still human, and if/when you fight them, you will have to do things that are gory and unpleasant.
I don’t doubt that the victims of ICE are nearing the level of suffering we see in the death camp liberation photos. We see atrocities in Gaza on a daily basis. We know who’s behind it, we cheer the idea that their ability to do so will end, we keep psyching ourselves up to accept the reality and fight back. Great, but here’s what it looks like. Accept it or keep looking the other way while hoping someone else takes care of it and your hands are clean. They’re not, the blood of all the victims is as much on yours and mine for not accepting the terms of the brutalizers in this conflict and treating moral objection and righteous condemnation as the solution while they grind others into nothing.
I’m not saying that this part of history shouldn’t be discussed or seen. I’m saying that it’s reasonable to give people browsing Lemmy a warning before seeing dead bodies.
Y’all can continue your debate, but that first photo needs to be behind a spoiler tag before I can clear this report.
I’m not gonna simp for the US government’s right to execute people. Miss Me with that authoritarian shit. I only support murder of fascists when it’s done by anarchist vigilantes. That’s because I trust Luigi Mangione types better than I trust Harry Truman types.
Mussolini was killed by Italian partisans, literally the anarchists, socialists, and communists who spent the war fighting the fascists. I honestly don’t care how they die. Want to put ‘em down, use every resource and avenue at your disposal. Truman didn’t kill Nazis, my grandfather did. How he got to Europe doesn’t much matter to me so long as they’re dead. John C. Woods is a hero because the US government tried to give them a clean death, he made them die slowly in agony. Luigi didn’t do it, he was at my house cross-country. Whoever did though… keep up the good fight.
I care who kills fascists because I don’t think the government should have the power to kill people. The government will become corrupt if you give it that power. Instead of empowering the state, we should be dismantling it.
You want the morality of in the moment life or death decisions being morally justifiable and clean cut good guy/bad guy. That’s not how death dealing works. Start the slaughter and the innocent are going to get caught in the crossfire. It’s not just middle aged white men you’re going to face, you’re going to face women and brainwashed children making a desperate last stand where it’s their ideals or yours. Hesitate and they’ll win. Disarm them but hope they’ll swallow the loss and change and they’ll fester until they have the opportunity to stage a comeback. Demand that everyone fight solely for your personal values and you fight alone. I despise tankies and libertarians almost as much as I do fascists, but if I gotta use their help to eradicate the fascists, I’ll take the help I can get and sort their value out later. And if they go down fighting, great, problem solved, hopefully they took out a good ratio before they were eliminated. It’s like watching Christians, Zionists, and jihadists fight- by all means, kill each other. But there’s no clean war, we all suffer the fallout. If you truly have a capacity for interpersonal violence and want go down that path, go for it. Anyone can talk big online anonymously, you know where the haters in your community live, work, and hang-out. Make ‘em suffer. But don’t delude yourself into thinking your actions are going to be ideal, that you’ll always get a ideal enemy, or that your allies are on the same spectrum. Dead Nazis are dead Nazis. Legit question: you and I agree on the idea of death as an option but have some ethical differences on when/where/how. If push comes to shove are you really going to fight me if we’ve got some captured Nazis in cuffs and I want to be done with them?
or maybe i’m just speaking the truth but you’re too brainwashed into reddit brain to acknowledge someone who is emotional about nazis who support a genocide because emotions are signs of crazy people
this website has lots of crypto-zionists who pretend they aren’t. it’s just like back in the 2010s when we were fighting the alt-right. back then, it was all “not everyone you disagree with was a fascist”. yes, they fucking were, and most people were too ignorant to see it.
ask godric if they acknowledge the genocide and find out for yourself, or by all means, discount my opinions because i’m too emotional, and implicitly support genocide denying nazis. your choice.
if you’re a zionist spreading hasbara, go fuck yourself and die.
Yes, Israel is committing a genocide. I think Australia should declare war on Israel and bomb IDF bases until the genocide stops. We should demand that Israel recognise the Palestinian state and withdraw all trespasses onto Palestinian land. But once the war is over, I do not think Australia should execute zionist civilians. I also do not think zionist civilians in Australia should be executed by the government. Certainly, if they’re collaborating with the IDF, their work should be seized. The most egregious domestic offenders should be charged with community service.
Would you have the Australian government (which, by the way, is an illegal government just like Israel) execute zionist citizens for treason, commit to an invasion of Palestinian land, and execute all Israeli citizens who support the genocide? I wouldn’t. We have no death penalty in Australia for good reason. I would not support any politician who advocated for reinstating capital punishment, even if they intended to execute zionists.
Godric says they dodged the question because they recognised that you were using the alt-right playbook, and didn’t want to take your engagement bait. I think that’s a valid position. I’m a bit more of a skilled speechwriter, so I know how to maneuver past engagement bait and stay on topic while also addressing the question. But if Godric didn’t feel confident with outmaneuvering your engagement bait and wanted to just stay on topic, I respect that. I gotta say, I also noticed you using the alt-right playbook. You made a wild accusation against Me with no evidence and gish-galloped straight into interrogating Me. It’s a good thing I know how to deal with that sort of bad-faith rhetoric. I’m not gonna take your word that Godric is a zionist, just because they refused to engage with your bad-faith nonsense.
zionists always lie and pretend that anti-zionists are fascists. either you’re stupid and believe a zionist over an anti-zionist, or, far more likely, you yourself are a zionist liar. either way, go fuck yourself, collaborationist scum. one day, hopefully soon, we will have justice, and zionists will pay for their crimes. i suspect you will be among them.
fuck anti-semitism, fuck israel, fuck zionists, fuck the far-right, fuck nazis. all of them are scum.
Pointing out how easilly Neonazis co-opted leftist rhetoric in a thread discussing how Neonazis are literally bragging about coopting leftist rhetoric is Zionism to you? Oh wow you got me, I’m right up there with the IDF: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FwFsvx1KfgA
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I looked over OPs account and found nothing about zionism.
The meme is also about the faith of the seven and the old gods as well as the tree kin (names can vary depending on how bad my translation is) all of which comes from the books “the song of ice and fire” and a series made based on it “game of thrones”
So how is OP zionist?
there was a thread in a now deleted post (typical lemmy.world zionist admin team) where it became extremely obvious.
the thread itself is lost but you can probably search for it
you’ll also notice they don’t deny it
Oh, are you one of those people who’s pro-death-penalty? No thanks, I’m a leftist. I think only active combatants should be killed.
Nah. Kudos to John C. Woods for “botching” Nuremberg.
Could you put the gore behind a spoiler tag? Getting reports about it from people who’d rather not see that unintentionally.
No. Those are historical pictures of the price to be paid when you spend your life doing this
It’s ugly, it’s unsettling, it’s uncomfortable, it’s graphic. But if the subject is “lets comment and upvote how violent we want to be against the system”, while I wholeheartedly endorse that sentiment, that is what you need to be capable of because this is what they are doing with their power. Everyone needs to see what happens to the vulnerable when you use talk while the victimizers use action. Everyone needs to be reminded of what it actually looks like when you chose to fight back with action.
The internet is full of calls for violence from people who have never actually been in a situation where they inflict a life altering level of violence on another person, much less a life ending one. It’s not Hollywood and it’s not superheroes. Your enemies may have abandoned their humanity but they’re still human, and if/when you fight them, you will have to do things that are gory and unpleasant.
I don’t doubt that the victims of ICE are nearing the level of suffering we see in the death camp liberation photos. We see atrocities in Gaza on a daily basis. We know who’s behind it, we cheer the idea that their ability to do so will end, we keep psyching ourselves up to accept the reality and fight back. Great, but here’s what it looks like. Accept it or keep looking the other way while hoping someone else takes care of it and your hands are clean. They’re not, the blood of all the victims is as much on yours and mine for not accepting the terms of the brutalizers in this conflict and treating moral objection and righteous condemnation as the solution while they grind others into nothing.
I’m not saying that this part of history shouldn’t be discussed or seen. I’m saying that it’s reasonable to give people browsing Lemmy a warning before seeing dead bodies.
Y’all can continue your debate, but that first photo needs to be behind a spoiler tag before I can clear this report.
I’m not gonna simp for the US government’s right to execute people. Miss Me with that authoritarian shit. I only support murder of fascists when it’s done by anarchist vigilantes. That’s because I trust Luigi Mangione types better than I trust Harry Truman types.
Mussolini was killed by Italian partisans, literally the anarchists, socialists, and communists who spent the war fighting the fascists. I honestly don’t care how they die. Want to put ‘em down, use every resource and avenue at your disposal. Truman didn’t kill Nazis, my grandfather did. How he got to Europe doesn’t much matter to me so long as they’re dead. John C. Woods is a hero because the US government tried to give them a clean death, he made them die slowly in agony. Luigi didn’t do it, he was at my house cross-country. Whoever did though… keep up the good fight.
I care who kills fascists because I don’t think the government should have the power to kill people. The government will become corrupt if you give it that power. Instead of empowering the state, we should be dismantling it.
You want the morality of in the moment life or death decisions being morally justifiable and clean cut good guy/bad guy. That’s not how death dealing works. Start the slaughter and the innocent are going to get caught in the crossfire. It’s not just middle aged white men you’re going to face, you’re going to face women and brainwashed children making a desperate last stand where it’s their ideals or yours. Hesitate and they’ll win. Disarm them but hope they’ll swallow the loss and change and they’ll fester until they have the opportunity to stage a comeback. Demand that everyone fight solely for your personal values and you fight alone. I despise tankies and libertarians almost as much as I do fascists, but if I gotta use their help to eradicate the fascists, I’ll take the help I can get and sort their value out later. And if they go down fighting, great, problem solved, hopefully they took out a good ratio before they were eliminated. It’s like watching Christians, Zionists, and jihadists fight- by all means, kill each other. But there’s no clean war, we all suffer the fallout. If you truly have a capacity for interpersonal violence and want go down that path, go for it. Anyone can talk big online anonymously, you know where the haters in your community live, work, and hang-out. Make ‘em suffer. But don’t delude yourself into thinking your actions are going to be ideal, that you’ll always get a ideal enemy, or that your allies are on the same spectrum. Dead Nazis are dead Nazis. Legit question: you and I agree on the idea of death as an option but have some ethical differences on when/where/how. If push comes to shove are you really going to fight me if we’ve got some captured Nazis in cuffs and I want to be done with them?
grail you are notorious for being a liar lmfao
do you recognize israel is committing genocide in gaza?
You sound like an Israeli psyop trying to phrase reasonable opinions in such a ridiculous manner as to drive people into supporting Israel.
Even your choice of instance is too on the nose. You might as well be explicitly saying “look how crazy you have to be to support Palestine.”
or maybe i’m just speaking the truth but you’re too brainwashed into reddit brain to acknowledge someone who is emotional about nazis who support a genocide because emotions are signs of crazy people
this website has lots of crypto-zionists who pretend they aren’t. it’s just like back in the 2010s when we were fighting the alt-right. back then, it was all “not everyone you disagree with was a fascist”. yes, they fucking were, and most people were too ignorant to see it.
ask godric if they acknowledge the genocide and find out for yourself, or by all means, discount my opinions because i’m too emotional, and implicitly support genocide denying nazis. your choice.
if you’re a zionist spreading hasbara, go fuck yourself and die.
The crazy person shouting on the corner with no shirt and covered in ketchup might be right. But they sure aren’t helping their cause.
Yes, Israel is committing a genocide. I think Australia should declare war on Israel and bomb IDF bases until the genocide stops. We should demand that Israel recognise the Palestinian state and withdraw all trespasses onto Palestinian land. But once the war is over, I do not think Australia should execute zionist civilians. I also do not think zionist civilians in Australia should be executed by the government. Certainly, if they’re collaborating with the IDF, their work should be seized. The most egregious domestic offenders should be charged with community service.
Would you have the Australian government (which, by the way, is an illegal government just like Israel) execute zionist citizens for treason, commit to an invasion of Palestinian land, and execute all Israeli citizens who support the genocide? I wouldn’t. We have no death penalty in Australia for good reason. I would not support any politician who advocated for reinstating capital punishment, even if they intended to execute zionists.
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Godric says they dodged the question because they recognised that you were using the alt-right playbook, and didn’t want to take your engagement bait. I think that’s a valid position. I’m a bit more of a skilled speechwriter, so I know how to maneuver past engagement bait and stay on topic while also addressing the question. But if Godric didn’t feel confident with outmaneuvering your engagement bait and wanted to just stay on topic, I respect that. I gotta say, I also noticed you using the alt-right playbook. You made a wild accusation against Me with no evidence and gish-galloped straight into interrogating Me. It’s a good thing I know how to deal with that sort of bad-faith rhetoric. I’m not gonna take your word that Godric is a zionist, just because they refused to engage with your bad-faith nonsense.
I couldn’t have said it better myself! I wish you the best day!
zionists always lie and pretend that anti-zionists are fascists. either you’re stupid and believe a zionist over an anti-zionist, or, far more likely, you yourself are a zionist liar. either way, go fuck yourself, collaborationist scum. one day, hopefully soon, we will have justice, and zionists will pay for their crimes. i suspect you will be among them.
fuck anti-semitism, fuck israel, fuck zionists, fuck the far-right, fuck nazis. all of them are scum.
Pointing out how easilly Neonazis co-opted leftist rhetoric in a thread discussing how Neonazis are literally bragging about coopting leftist rhetoric is Zionism to you? Oh wow you got me, I’m right up there with the IDF: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FwFsvx1KfgA
Go outside kiddo 🤡
so do you recognize that israel is committing genocide in gaza?
ok zionist