So because you had troubles makes other people’s troubles invalid? I wasn’t crying about anything. I was sharing an experience relevant to a topic at hand. Kind of a shitty double standard there and doesn’t really help either side. Having 5 sisters and mostly women friends, I very much am aware of the fears and struggles women face, even if I haven’t experienced them directly myself. Which is why I said the only thing I can comment on is that decent/innocent men do, indeed, worry about accusations. You are certainly making a whole lot of assumptions and are apparently pretty bad at nuanced understanding of complex situations.
I want to point this out again so you really understand here - you are ignoring this community’s wishes and rules. You are choosing to ignore our stated wishes and forcing your opinion and views onto us despite all of us saying we don’t want to hear it.
You are acting like a man who does not respect or care to understand what women want and you are choosing to do what YOU want regardless.
You ARE acting like a man who does not respect women’s boundaries.
Okay, not that this is your business, but I actually was born with a vagina, so nice assumption making you’re doing there. I’m taking horomones and have a beard now, sure, but still. You’re acting like the stereotypical idiot that everyone makes fun of and uses to belittle your entire opinion. I’ve not talked down to anyone nor have I made any assumptions about anyone or anything. You’re being overly hostile for no reason
Transmen are men, so the rules still apply to you.
I’m sorry you got accused of rape. But coming into a thread where the majority of people in the community have actually experienced rape and assault at the hands of men and sharing that story is tone deaf at best.
You’re acting like the stereotypical idiot that everyone makes fun of and uses to belittle your entire opinion.
I can’t tell you how many women have reached out to me directly to thank me for the ways I push back on the sexism on Lemmy and in this community.
Not when the comment I replied to was talking about a man’s perspective on being accused of rape, it’s not. I spent the first 20 years of my life as a woman. My view is just as valid as yours, even if I was lucky enough to have not been actually raped
I think it’s rather gross of you to wield your gender this way. You clearly identify as a man from your story and your subsequent comments. Your insistence on participating in this community of women and femmes is weird at this point.
Having views and experiences from multiple perspectives and being able to use them to understand a complex issue is not ‘gross’. In fact, being absolutely hostile without reason and making assumptions to back up your hostility and minimizing the experience I had growing up as a woman is what is gross. I do identify as a man now, and I identified as a woman before and so I have a view on both
You’re not sharing your perspective from when you were a woman, you’re sharing your experiences as a man.
You can share those views and experiences in other communities. You can share this image in another community and have this discussion there.
This is explicitly a community for women and femmes. Yeah I am a little hostile to men who won’t take no for an answer. I’ve been direct with you, but I haven’t been “absolutely hostile without reason”.
Respectfully, I don’t give a fuck what you think as a man.
Secondly, I would have been gone and moved on to other things by now had you not continued antagonizing and starting arguments over nothing. But you’re right, continuing to argue with someone as closeminded as you are is weird. Hope your life makes you less angry in the future
They weren’t looking for support they were sharing their unique view and you got offered because it is a (trans) man in your echo chamber safe space. Grow up and treat people like people.
Lmao. Are you assuming my gender now too? I respect everyone by default until they act disrespectful. Sorry you can’t just wave me away like I’m some filthy man. Again grow up and treat people like people.
Have you lost track of the conversation? The man who we are talking about is the one who chose not to read the rules and proceeded to break them multiple times.
Women protecting our spaces isn’t the enemy you want. Where’s this energy for the man who insisted on sharing his views in a space that is specifically set aside for women and femme people? It’s much more disrespectful for him to insist on participating than anything I’ve said here.
Crying to a women’s group about being accused of rape when about half of us have been victims of rape and assault sure is a choice you made.
So because you had troubles makes other people’s troubles invalid? I wasn’t crying about anything. I was sharing an experience relevant to a topic at hand. Kind of a shitty double standard there and doesn’t really help either side. Having 5 sisters and mostly women friends, I very much am aware of the fears and struggles women face, even if I haven’t experienced them directly myself. Which is why I said the only thing I can comment on is that decent/innocent men do, indeed, worry about accusations. You are certainly making a whole lot of assumptions and are apparently pretty bad at nuanced understanding of complex situations.
The least you could do is respect that this is a women’s only space and leave us to our community.
Instead you are forcing yourself onto us here. So much for respecting women.
I want to point this out again so you really understand here - you are ignoring this community’s wishes and rules. You are choosing to ignore our stated wishes and forcing your opinion and views onto us despite all of us saying we don’t want to hear it.
You are acting like a man who does not respect or care to understand what women want and you are choosing to do what YOU want regardless.
You ARE acting like a man who does not respect women’s boundaries.
Okay, not that this is your business, but I actually was born with a vagina, so nice assumption making you’re doing there. I’m taking horomones and have a beard now, sure, but still. You’re acting like the stereotypical idiot that everyone makes fun of and uses to belittle your entire opinion. I’ve not talked down to anyone nor have I made any assumptions about anyone or anything. You’re being overly hostile for no reason
Transmen are men, so the rules still apply to you.
I’m sorry you got accused of rape. But coming into a thread where the majority of people in the community have actually experienced rape and assault at the hands of men and sharing that story is tone deaf at best.
I can’t tell you how many women have reached out to me directly to thank me for the ways I push back on the sexism on Lemmy and in this community.
You’re the one acting a fool in here.
Not when the comment I replied to was talking about a man’s perspective on being accused of rape, it’s not. I spent the first 20 years of my life as a woman. My view is just as valid as yours, even if I was lucky enough to have not been actually raped
Your view as a man isn’t welcome here.
I think it’s rather gross of you to wield your gender this way. You clearly identify as a man from your story and your subsequent comments. Your insistence on participating in this community of women and femmes is weird at this point.
Having views and experiences from multiple perspectives and being able to use them to understand a complex issue is not ‘gross’. In fact, being absolutely hostile without reason and making assumptions to back up your hostility and minimizing the experience I had growing up as a woman is what is gross. I do identify as a man now, and I identified as a woman before and so I have a view on both
You’re not sharing your perspective from when you were a woman, you’re sharing your experiences as a man.
You can share those views and experiences in other communities. You can share this image in another community and have this discussion there.
This is explicitly a community for women and femmes. Yeah I am a little hostile to men who won’t take no for an answer. I’ve been direct with you, but I haven’t been “absolutely hostile without reason”.
Respectfully, I don’t give a fuck what you think as a man.
Secondly, I would have been gone and moved on to other things by now had you not continued antagonizing and starting arguments over nothing. But you’re right, continuing to argue with someone as closeminded as you are is weird. Hope your life makes you less angry in the future
You commented to me initially. And now this interaction is all my fault because I dared to respond?
Sure, dude.
Try respecting women’s spaces a bit better out there.
Behave like an adult.
There are other communities where LostCarcosan can get support for this issue.
They weren’t looking for support they were sharing their unique view and you got offered because it is a (trans) man in your echo chamber safe space. Grow up and treat people like people.
Their unique view isn’t wanted here. How hard is it to read the rules and respect them?
Grow up and respect women.
Lmao. Are you assuming my gender now too? I respect everyone by default until they act disrespectful. Sorry you can’t just wave me away like I’m some filthy man. Again grow up and treat people like people.
Have you lost track of the conversation? The man who we are talking about is the one who chose not to read the rules and proceeded to break them multiple times.
Women protecting our spaces isn’t the enemy you want. Where’s this energy for the man who insisted on sharing his views in a space that is specifically set aside for women and femme people? It’s much more disrespectful for him to insist on participating than anything I’ve said here.