• mathemachristian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    The difference for a vegan boycott is that what you don’t consume has to be taken out of production sooner or later. What you eat is a real creature that lived and had to give it’s life, if you stop eating it’s kind however then over time that creature won’t be replaced. There are still billions and animal ag will still keep going but you can make a difference for the pig that would have been.

    And that’s a big deal because we aren’t talking about some inanimate commodity that didn’t get produced while leaving the overall structure intact, we are talking about a feeling sentient creature.

    Besides, the strongest argument for veganism is not that it’s a boycott, it’s that it’s reprehensible to not be vegan for the same reason it would have been reprehensible to buy commodities made from the corpses of holocaust victims.

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      You can couch it in whatever morality you want, it’s still not an effective strategy on its own. Slavery (should obviously) be morally repugnant in a way where you don’t need to make a hamfisted holocaust comparison to say that it’s bad, yet it went on for quite a while and boycotts did not end it. Amping up the attempts to make something sound bad does not suddenly challenge power when it didn’t before.

      It’s like, how do I put it… all agitate, with no political education and no organizing. That is the problem I see with this type of thing.

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        2 months ago

        Like I said the material impact you have by not eating corpses is not ending animal ag, it’s that the you have an impact on production. If you don’t buy coca-cola then, over time, they will not be producing the bottles you would have consumed otherwise. This doesn’t make a difference to coca-cola, whether the factory produces 4538694 bottles or 4538693 won’t be felt by anyone. The difference is when talking about veganism we are not talking about bottles but living feeling loving creatures. For that one creature not having to live a tortuous life is a good thing.

        And I didn’t mean that holocaust comparison in a hamfisted way but very directly. The holocaust was animal ag applied to humans. They took a lot of equipment, industrial planning strategies even herding strategies from animal ag. Name me one reason for why you wouldn’t buy lamps made with human skin that wouldn’t apply to other animals.

        This is ultimately what made me go vegan btw. The realisation that animal ag can and has been turned on humans. The capitalists don’t make a difference between chicken, sheep or you if you all produce the same profit. Any random cow is more of a comrade than ronald mcdonald and you should have solidarity with them.