• Footer1998@crazypeople.online
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    corporations, politicians and the super wealthy are all enemies of the international working class, and can never be trusted

    and no, there are no exceptions. use politicians as tools to make progress but never ever trust them.

    the working class must organize and sieze power ourselves or else forever remain slaves

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        Almost all of them. There are maybe a few exceptions. I’m going to be honest, the only politician I would count as “good” is Miguel Ángel Revilla.

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        some begin life as allies of the working class, but power corrupts. it is so unbelievably rare for humans to be able to resist that corruption that it can never be relied upon. politicians betraying the will of the people isn’t just an individual failing, it’s the system working as intended

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          How does the working class collectively make decisions that affect everyone?
          Wouldn’t they need some form of delegates representing them?
          Cause those would also be politicians.

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            Wouldn’t they need some form of delegates representing them?
            Cause those would also be politicians.

            No, it wouldn’t. The difference vs someone appointed as a delegate vs a politician is that the group can recall a delegate that is not representing them whereas politicians are on set terms (for the most part).

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            You’re restricting your thinking to being solely within the current political system.

            Direct democracies exist as an antidote to the problem of corrupt “representatives” and politicians; replacing them instead with delegates who can only communicate goals and have no political power to enforce them— that power remains with the people within a direct democracy.

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              So how do people in a direct democracy decide for example whether to defend their country militarily against an attacker, and how, or sue for peace?
              Do you publish all your military intel on the attacker and the strength of your own forces and then hold a vote?
              Who decides from which age on people are eligible to vote? etc…

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                Look into anarchism, all of these questions and whatever else you can think of have been answered.

                Anarchistfaq is a site you can read on this more on.